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I would rather have neither be using my property to spy on me.
Agreed - my point is that if both are "not great", except one is cheaper....
China wins
China uses slavery and genocide to get ahead economically. Maybe we should be avoiding both.
I agree - got any ideas how to avoid that and still get reasonably priced electric cars?
America is out: "all you had to do was pay us enough to live"
Open Source! When you can audit the software you know what's going on!
Didn't Ford do that, like the literal company. China isn't a car company and I doubt byd has directly committed acts of genocide so that's kinda one up for them
Chinese businesses don't get the loans they need to grow if they are not 100% inline with the party. BYD may not be a genocidal slave owner but they will support China's decisions every step of the way.
They really did a min-maxed speedrun of capitalism. The rich get to be rich, the government gets to imprison, enslave, and execute anyone who doesn't support them, and that let them undercut all the existing big names in manufacturing. I would bet that there is a Chinese manufactured part in every home in the world that also has electricity and plumbing.
That's spot on.
LOL.. like Canada has not?
So just disconnect.
OTA can be disabled by user. or, the SIM card can be removed.
Then why are we not investing in making it ourselves?
Ask the investor class.
If any car manufacturer thought it was profitable it would happen.
if we waited for things to be profitable before making them we wouldn't have the roads for these cars to drive on
You're conflating infrastructure with consumer goods. Ask Stellantis how well the Dodge Charger EV is going (less than 2,000 units sold).
Because stellantis makes shitty vehicles in general.