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[–] WillStealYourUsername@piefed.blahaj.zone 44 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (8 children)
[–] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago

What a strange way to look at the world. Do you spend all day compiling dossiers on the people who made stuff you like?

[–] Wirlocke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 hours ago

💔 This hurts to read

[–] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

This. Play Satisfactory instead.

[–] I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Shapez 2

Shapez is good too, but Shapez 2 is much better

[–] Erusset@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 hours ago
[–] Mandarbmax@lemmy.world 22 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Oh damn, you got a source for that?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Not the og commenter but he probably isnt those things himself, but according to some reddit thread has defended people who are those things and made some questionable comments on social media at some point about consent and minors. Im too lazy to actually fact check this tho, so you will probably have to dig deeper yourself if you want to actually be sure. Apparently there are some archive.org pages of his tweets.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah so just like Rowling. A dirtbag.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 10 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (4 children)

The theme of the game is "destroy and pollute the environment of an entire planet just so you can leave", somehow I am not surprised.

I don't get why the disinterest in the theme of factorio exploring the planet or seeing the planet as anything but hostile doesn't sit weird with more people.

If the game explicitly recognized you are the villain I would be fine with it but factorio is oblivious to this and it makes the whole thing feel hollow to me.

[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

A buddy of mine has been messing around for the last couple of years with the idea of a game that's almost the opposite of factorio. Take a planet that's crazy polluted and clean out up / help nature heal. I hope he actually does it some day.

[–] deus@lemmy.world 2 points 30 minutes ago (1 children)

That game already exists, it's called Terra Nil and is on sale right now.

[–] Hasherm0n@lemmy.world 1 points 20 minutes ago

Very cool, I'll have to check it out.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I dunno how much more explicit it really needs to be, the biters attack you and get stronger directly because of the pollution you cause. The more you destroy their world the more they try to get you off it. I always felt like that made it pretty clear that you're the villain.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Really? Why are there no benign animals? Why are all the alien creatures designed to evoke an easy disgust reaction from the player?

I am fine blasting alien bugs, what I wanted from Factorio was a more tongue in cheek awareness of the fundamental selfish brutality to the plot.

[–] greenskye@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 hours ago

There are benign animals. There are fish.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 hours ago

maybe it's just because I don't really find the biters disgusting then. They are benign, there's just nothing that helps the player because the player is evil.

[–] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I mean... At risk of sounding like I'm defending a fucking pedo, and also having never played Factorio, doing terrible things and being mostly evil is something that happens in quite a few games. I don't think that alone points to anything. Otherwise fuck that guy and I hope his life crumbles

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Like I specifically said, I have no problem with playing a fictional villain my issue is the massive unaddressed blindspot inherent to the context of the Factorio's framing.

I don't know why people always respond like this by thinking I have an issue with villain roleplay, that isn't what I am saying at all.

The problem is the lack of self awareness not the make believe evilness.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

While I understand where you’re coming from, you’re trying to project a story and moral philosophy onto a game that is completely bereft of a plot line. The entire plot is “you crashed on a planet. Survive and escape.” No more, no less. The plot literally doesn’t have room for moral philosophy or “you were really the bad guy all along” plot twists, because there is no plot to contain those themes. If you want to role-play that in your world, feel free to do so. The game is a sandbox with simple cause>effect consequences, not an A>B>C storyline.

The meaning behind that cause and effect is left up to the individual players to interpret however they’d like. You say that the lack of self-awareness is what makes the game problematic, but I would argue that the individual players are the ones responsible for that. Because the game doesn’t assign good or evil to the individual actions. The player’s actions simply change the world in some way, (like adding pollution to the air), and the player is left to deal with the consequences of those changes, (like being attacked by natives as the pollution spreads and causes them to multiply).

Saying that the game is bad because it’s missing those themes is like saying that Gary’s Mod is bad because it doesn’t force players to grapple with the realities of being a god that is able to make, unmake, and manipulate reality at will. The game is a sandbox meant for creative thinking within the rules of the game, not a narrative meant to inspire moral philosophy.

[–] Micromot@piefed.social 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Going Eco friendly in factorio is rewarded though. I think throughout the game you also realize that you are the bad person because the biters don't attack as long as you aren't polluting and destroying the environment.

Dev is still an asshole though

[–] Bazell@lemmy.zip 8 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Micromot@piefed.social 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Source?

Edit: I found the controversy, kinda disappointed but now that I have the game, it doesn't change much for myself. I'm not sure how much support there is for this in the community for this, but still disappointing to see from the head Dev of a game I enjoy a lot.

I probably won't recommend it to people anymore now

[–] anothercatgirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I only slightly agree. Koravex hasn't done enough to get canceled for real. Koravex is just typical center or slightly right in those opinions, there are too many ppl like that who are my friends and are nice to me about my minority identities like being trans. If I were to try cancel koravex, many of my friends would be weary of me and push me away.

I'm sorry but the pedophilia one is enough for me. that's not center or right of center