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    [–] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

    Not financially free but free as in freedom. Although most foss does not need to be bought, but there are foss programs you have to buy and after you bought it you are free to do with it what you want. Although this depends on the licence and copyright. For example you can fork the code and resell it (under certain licences) but due to copyright you can not use certain things such as graphics, fonts and name (depending on their licence).

    [–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

    I'd say that 99.somethiny percent of open source software is also free as in beer

    Come to think of it, I can't remember ever having seen open source software that required payment

    [–] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

    ThFair enough most are free as in free beer and free as in freedom. But that is also the reason why open source is so badly funded. I donate but that is nowhere near enough. I am not Valve, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, etc.. Do not have the funds to hire devs.

    [–] semperverus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Graphics font and name fall under trademark I believe, which separates it from copyright.

    Firefox is a famous example of this. The code for Firefox is completely open to anyone to fork and reuse, but you cannot call your fork Firefox. Mozilla retains the brand and the logo for it.

    So instead we get iceweasel.

    [–] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

    Yes sorry I meant trademark. It is just visual such as graphics in games that are copyrighted. That is why you still need to buy Doom eventhough the code was open sourced in the 90's.

    [–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    but there are foss programs you have to buy and after you bought it you are free to do with it what you want.

    Any examples? I'm just curious how they stay afloat after sharing the source code once someone buys it, forks it and releases the source.
    Maybe 'F' in FOSS does not mean it is gratis (de jure), but it is in fact gratis (de facto) for the majority of FOSS?

    [–] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

    RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux) would be an example. I am sure there are more but I am not well versed enough. There is also Ardour but I think that is more if you want a binary and build the software from source.

    [–] Alberat@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    but everyone just used centos instead. was that a failure of the commercial foss idea?

    [–] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

    Maybe, than again Red Hat was bought for an astronomical some by IBM so they were doing something right. Ubuntu still looks like it is doing well. I do not know how Suse is doing but they still exist.

    So I think commercial foss is not a failure but probably difficult to maintain.