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[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Self hosting doesn't necessarily imply you need your own hardware.

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm of the opposite opinion - would you mind elaborating on how a selfhosted-on-nonowned-hardware setup would work?

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I believe you, but many people self host on rented hardware for various reasons. For example "proper" self hosting comes with upfront cost. But self hosting ln a VPS comes with reliability, uptime, predictability. But you're still the master of the software you host, of backups, etc.

[–] dracc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 32 minutes ago (1 children)

So, running a VM in the cloud is somehow different from "running everything in the cloud"? I'm genuinely confused here, willing to bet I've misunderstood something.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

Operating and administering your own systems infrastructure requires that your business invest in the people to do so, this builds institutional knowledge which makes the important bit, the data and knowledge, portable. If the VM in the cloud gets too expensive you can use another provider, or you can buy hardware and run it locally. If the VM provider cuts your service you still have access to your data because you never lost control of it. Problems can be fixed by in house staff that don't suddenly evaporate for arbitrary reasons or have service outages.

If your entire business depends on Microsoft services and it gets too expensive you have no options but to pay more. If your account gets locked then you're out of business until you can get Microsoft to give you access again. If you want to migrate away, there isn't another Microsoft to move your data to and you've replaced all of your technical staff with a support phone number, which isn't currently accepting your calls.

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I have also found that self-hosting, even with your own hardware, is significantly cheaper than the premium cloud hosting (AWS, etc). We priced out a VM server at my company and we found we could rebuy the hardware for it every FIVE months, just from the cloud hosting costs. And that is if we were decently disciplined about turning VMs on and off every day (which we all knew was a fantasy).

That caused us to strike out the premium providers. Leaving us with the non-premium ones (Digital Ocean, etc), co-locating, or in-house hosting.

[–] rollerbang@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

I hear you. Personally I never understood the appeal of costly hosting at AWS and such. It just always seemed so expensive. The only benefit it provided, imho, is when you legitimately need to scale very quickly or if you've got a really huge variance in load.

Everything else? My own servers please, and thank you for reading 😁