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Fwiw, I thought it was interesting.
So we all voted Kamala, and we all think the Dems are fucking up again and we can’t let the literal fucking fascists win.
What are we arguing about again? Is it simply “Dems, with notable or temporary exception are not doing enough and they need to”?
If we’re all on board with the duty to vote and barring some miracle third party candidate we’ll be voting Dem, I think we could get more substantive criticism out there.
I guess when I see “Dems suck” or “don’t blame the voters” I think its an argument against voting which we saw a lot of, or “Harris was terrible” which I (very surprisingly) disagree with.
No one seems to be interested in asking what I'd want to see to vote for them, only that I'm wrong for the vote that I might or might not cast in 3.5 years time, which I find very interesting on an intellectual level.
I dunno, I think "what you want to see" is implied of course. Like, if trump changed to Democrat and "somehow" won the primaries, i don't think anyone would expect you to vote for that fucker. Or, shit, Bob Menendez or some garbage like that. I don't know what the DNC thinks their plan is, but they went with two women bookending Biden and neither won against the literal worst person ever to run. So, I think they're probably busy wondering if they'll be in the jobs to make campaign decisions.
But then I don't think Harris was bad at all. I think the worst thing we can say (outside of the support for Israel, which - is a whole other thing) is that she was more unknown than known. I didn't think she'd have any momentum at all and was pleasantly surprised to find she had a lot. Clearly intelligent, able to manage at that level, and checked most all of the position boxes I wanted in terms of progress in education, finance, climate, regulation, etc.
Is what you want somehow significantly different from what Harris was? And fwiw I think there's just a huge amount of frustration with the people who spent months on here grandstanding that they were never going to vote, that they were going to make Democrats "pay" for not specifically listing their particular unicorn in every stump speech and like that. People who should have known better and were either too young to know or too ignorant. Or trolling. Or literal disinformation farmers. Of course almost all of them magically disappeared when they got what they wanted.