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Yeah let's fucking infight constantly. Maybe that will stop fascism!
this post was submitted on 17 Sep 2025
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Is it really 'infighting' if they've declared their intention to not oppose fascism in the future?
I want to consider those opposed to Republicans as on the same side. Since if we aren't, we're probably fucked permanently.
I want to consider those opposed to Republicans as on the same side.
Are they opposed to Republicans if they're willing to let Republicans win to teach 'the libs' a lesson?
Generally I would regard that as 'not opposed'.
Notice I said "want to". The idiots should do one thing, but apparently a lot of them will do the opposite, ignoring what should've been a lesson to them.
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I want to consider those opposed to Republicans as on the same side.
Me too, but they just wanted to shit on our candidates and let trump win. They were pretty clear about that. All this trump insanity is the Democrats’ fault. Heck, they still say it now.
That plus the fact that there doesn’t seem to be any other plan at all besides shitting on Democrats makes me think they’re just high-quality GRU inductees. Or functionally indistinct, anyway.
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"Opposing" implies that you're actually doing something.
In physics, "work" is defined as movement over time. If you spend fifty years pushing a wall and the wall hasn't moved, you can't say you've done anything.
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"You cannot negotiate with authoritarians. You cannot negotiate with fascists. They don't stop ̶u̶n̶t̶i̶l̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶r̶y̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶p̶l̶i̶e̶s̶."
FTFY.
Fascism requires an "other" to exist. When all the current "others" have been killed, they must invent a new one or perish.
The goalposts are ever shifting, and the in-group forever shrinking.
Its autocannibalism.
They also simultaneously pump the ingroup into the military meatgrinder apparatus. Fascism is how the elite attempt to achieve god status at the expense of all others. Its the antithesis of Western enlightenment values. The antithesis of egalitarian, humanist values that have existed at different times in different cultures worldwide. The accelerator of our extinction.
Autocannibalism. Well said.
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Canada awkwardly trying not to be noticed doing exactly this in the corner.
"come on, it'll be easier if we work together, just slide a bit of the profit my way and ill help lull them into a false sense of security"
"How much profit?"
"1%"
"Lol, no"
"Ok, the scraps from the table then..."
"... "
"Ok, the scraps from the table that are knocked on to the floor?"
"You've got a deal, partner. I knew we could sort this out fairly."
I feel like a lot of leftists figured Harris was horrible so they might as well teach everyone a lesson and sit the vote out helping Trump ultimately win.
MLK Jr once said it wasn't the KKK holding progress back, but the white moderate. In this day and age, moderate democrats/center are the absolute definition of what MLK was warning us about.
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I think there have been a lot of articles showing the protest votes didn't move the needle in a way that could have impacted the outcome, but I'm prepared to be shown I'm wrong.
Yeah, in the key swing states, Harris actually received more votes in 2024 then Biden did in 2020. What happened wasn't people choosing to vote third party or abstain because "both parties bad". It was that Trump was exceedingly successful at convincing otherwise non-voters to vote for him. As terrifying as that is to think of.
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Maybe the Democrats should have stopped running such terrible centrist candidates in pursuit of Republican voters. Idk why tou are blaming leftists instead of the millions of disillusioned voters who see both oarties as nothing more than tools for the billionaires.
Both sidesing this is the laziest of arguments.
The democrats should have been able to run a half empty can of rotten crab juice against Trump and win.
Instead I'm here questioning the average intelligence of voting age Americans and wondering how long the education system has been failing us.
Well, that's clearly not the electoral environment we live in.
If you want to win office, you do actually have to communicate a positive idea of the future. Obama didn't win by saying, "I'm gonna continue basically all of George W. Bush's policies". Even though that's what he actually did, he still had to campaign on something a little more marketable than, "I'm not the other guy".
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Idk what to tell you if you are just now realizing that voters are uninformed. People hate politics. And people know that their quality of life has been deteriorating rapidly for the past 5 years. Democrats said that they weren't going to change anything, Trump said he was going to change EVERYTHING. That same dynamic is happening all across the world right now, and liberals refuse to realize that no one is buying what they are selling.
"vote for us, we aren't outright fascists" is clearly not a winning strategy, but liberals continue to use the same playbook. Just look at Keir Starmer and Macron and tell me that this is a purely American problem.
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I'm trying to understand this meme, does it refer to classical liberals? Or is it just a euphemism for the US democrat supporters?
I'm not from the US so might be missing nuance.
Depends on the context of the OP/meme/audience.
If they are NOT a fascist then "Liberals" means the neoliberal, DNC, "white moderate" types who arguably run as counterintelligence against the left, and help the right "sow the seeds of fascism".
If they're a fascist "Liberals" refers to EVERYONE left of fascism, as it is used interchangeably with communist, marxist, woke; whatever they don't like.
Given the sub, this is the first one.
Applies to Sweden as well. The liberal party went from proudly stating the far-right saw them as the enemy to adopting the far-right policies, implementing them, and calling it liberalism. That is stuff like prison for children, deportation for victims of crime, and still supporting and collaborating with them after it was -- to very little surprise -- discovered that one of their higher ups have a personal relationship to and is working with a very well known neonazi.
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So you're going to promote and support the DNC to remove the fascists in the midterms?
If that's what the DNC seems like they are trying to do, sure. I voted for Kamala in 2024 too, though that was NOT a campaign run by someone trying to remove the fascists, that was one run by someone trying to get their votes.
THAT'S not a vote I'll be making again though.
If you mean unconditionally support the DNC no matter how clearly they work against the values they claim to stand for - nah, I got decades of that already.
Look there are two possible outcomes, remove the GOP by using the DNC or get an ever increasing GOP majority.
If you're supporting the GOP even indirectly then you're not a leftist because left is progress and you're effectively a conservative.
No one seems to be interested in asking what I'd want to see to vote for them, only that I'm wrong for the vote that I might or might not cast in 3.5 years time, which I find very interesting on an intellectual level.
Vote your conscience, dude. Youre more informed then most voters, in short, youre cooked. We should spend resources elsewhere and get better roi.
Sad to have to treat you like a maga.
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That'll teach me for deleting the reverse of this because I thought it was divisive and didn't need to be posted.
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