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Thank you. I do wish the public conversation were more about actual tech vs social engineering and public-vibe opinion.
I like the fact that Wire uses a separate key for every device and every 2-person pair, even in a group chat.
But I hate how much metadata that Wire leaks. I do not want my ISP/VPN provider to be able to track where I am and with whom I am messaging. IP addresses, routing paths, packet sizes, timing...
Both protocols encrypt what you say. Wire betrays where you were when you said it and gives a lot more clues about who you said it to. Exactly what you want people to use, if you are a nation-state able to monitor corporate ISPs and VPNs.
This is the first I have heard of this - can you point me to any sites?
Thanks for the very detailed reply! I'll check into it.
Interesting, didn’t know anything about Wire. Are the ISP/VPN selling your data your main concern? Foreign nations enter your mind as far as threat model? Maybe easier to speak generally on what relatively normal (but nerdy) people might do best to care about