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The Newsom hype is a bit weird tbh. Like anything is better than Trump. But please America do better than business as usual...
I don't idolize Newsom, but he's doing something. No one else is. Credit where credit is due.
No matter what, he's orders of magnitude better than Trump. He's also white, male, and straight and America has a big problem voting for anyone that doesn't meet that criteria.
It's because he's the only one actually doing anything. It sucks that he's the one who is doing it, but we should be encouraging the behavior instead of shitting on the only person giving Trump the middle finger.
Is he perfect? Hell no. But don't let perfect stand in the way of good. Well, maybe not good, but not a genocidal fascist.
This. He's not a progressive dem, and he won't win me over against mostother candidates. However, how he is getting under Trump's skin should be a blueprint for every other D out there if they want a fighting chance in the midterms and forward.
My one hope there is that Dems will pick up on the fact that the only people getting noticed in their party are the people who are at least fucking trying.
"Stop trying so hard, people are noticing and it's making the rest of us look bad" ~establishment Dems, probably
It's also likely because all of the billionaires running media companies want him as the next Dem choice, so his headlines stick around.
Plenty of Progressives make noise, too, but they're never given any screen time.
I bet a lot of people would love to get back to business as usual as a pit stop on the way towards progress.
"Business as usual" is what led us here, and what causes what we are seeing today.
If we go back to that "as a pit stop", we'll be back here in about 4 years.
See the oil industry and their lie about Methane(sorry, "Natural Gas") being a "transition fuel"
selling methane as ‘natural gas’ is one of the very best marketing ploys ever
Natural gas is not entirely methane (though it is almost), and the name 'natural gas' was to differentiate from 'coal gas'/'town gas', not to obfuscate what it was
I imagine him as a very useful tool at the moment.
...because he's a tool, you see.
Yeah I hate the Newsom hype. So many people just forgot or don’t care that he invite people like Charlie Kirk onto his podcast and agreed with them on transphobic talking points. Even if he’s just trying to do it to appeal to republican voter it’s really stupid. Their voters don’t want a fascist-lite when a full on fascist is right there. All he does is drag the democrats further right and normalize transphobic talking points. Which leads to violence and more deaths like what happened with Nex Benedict.
I decided to check the actual podcast with Kirk and see what's the transphobic statement he made.
Here's the video, 22:20 onwards, it goes on for a while.
We can discuss the details, neither do I like his response overall, but you're massively overblowing and demonizing his position. Anyone can check for themselves. If this is how you think a transphobic fascist-lite sounds, if you think he would actually appeal to any republican voters thanks to this response, you must have a very caricatural understanding of politics and society.
Also his talking points on Palestine are wild. Dude is exactly why the democrats didn’t get in last election. Doing all the same shit.
It’s really sad how many people are just perfectly okay with letting me and other trans peoples rights be taken away because Newsom said a few funni things. It’s really upsetting how people in general on the left are transphobic but claim to be supportive. It’s incredibly frustrating watching people tell me I should support Newsom even though he is vocally against my rights. Sorry I don’t want to have to choose between a fascist who wants to blame and attack my people and a fascist-life who wants to blame and attack my people.
It fucking sucks. He has the veneer of a slightly progressive Democrat, then pulls shit like platforming flat out nazis like Charlie Kirk. And playing into anti-trans fear mongering. Well and being blase about homeless erasure and other crap.
"You can always trust Americans to do the right thing, after they have exhausted all other options."
We need actual like, American rebuilding from the ground up change. But for that to happen we need actual, America is completely broken and people are going hungry. Until that time we will keep going back and forth between "normal" and fascist, with the "normal" slowly creeping towards fascism anyways.
So we will probably go back and forth a few more times because Donald Trump will die happily of old age soon, and Democrats will claim a quiet victory and pretend nothing bad ever happened. Reverse a couple meaningless law changes. Keep the rest. And then be shocked when the new Donald Trump takes the reins.
We won't ever as a country look ahead and be like "ah yes, that is the correct course of action. It's okay to lose some profits now because the long term prosperity of the nation is what's important." We always try the easy but wrong path first.
I'm worried about the possibility of more violent ends, but in reality I think you're dead on the money. After the orange turd kicks the bucket we are going to waffle back over to "normal" where we are only getting fucked over quietly, rather than right in our face.
If you’re expecting American liberals to learn the lesson this presidency has taught them, I wouldn’t bank on it. Get ready for a Newsom presidency, and then get ready for another weird fascist one immediately after.
I think people need to abandon the idea that we will go from being a far right country to a socialist or progressive one overnight. We didn’t get this far right in one election cycle, we crept this way over time. You want to see big progressive change? Start doing what you can to move the country left, but don’t do something out of spite that the country isn’t moving left fast enough that makes it more likely that the country moves right.
If Newsom is the candidate, vote for him. Then put a ton of pressure on him to enact meaningful progressive policy change. And elect as many progressives as you can to Congress. But, if a neoliberal is on the ballot against a fascist, show up and support the neoliberal. And, raise up and empower progressive media. And, actually get out there yourself and be part of all this.
lol we already tried that ever since I’ve been alive. Liberals will not help enact political pressure and will actively fight us.
We’ve had progressive moments in this country though. That’s how we got national parks, labor laws, and social security.
The country is clearly not ready for a woman, much less a woman who isn't white, so business as usual is the only thing that'll work. Literally anything is better than trump, I'll vote for a ham sandwich if it comes down to it. everyone better get used to that idea, otherwise we end up with Trump 2.0 again because liberals decided to not vote again for a dumb fucking reason.
Not ready? Or just being petulant? It sure sucks that things have to be strategically discriminatory to stop the current trajectory of things.
Sorry, the best we can do is vote in mostly reckless people in ot for themselves or old people who should be in a home but somehow got into the house... and senate