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"But US"
This argument needs to die already. Someone else being bad is not a counter-argument
It's a well- known fallacy and propaganda strategy.
In fact, the USSR itself used it a lot, typically deflecting any criticism from the US with "but you hang negroes" back when that particular atrocity was a frequent occurrence.
If you look at the same source that you've provided, you will also see that using the label "whataboutism" is in itself a fallacy and propaganda strategy.
So... irrelevant... your fallacious propaganda strategy is rejected.
That has been CLAIMED by people defending their own use of whataboutism, sure, but they're wrong.
They're literally claiming that it's a tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy) fallacy to point out this particular tu quoque fallacy 🙄
Right back at you.
The US was actively trying to get whatever talent they could out of the USSR. It's called brain drain, and it's an effective way to prevent rival countries from growing.
Last I checked, people with brains have legs. Unless this happens through mass kidnapping, the best way to do this is to have a good place to live.
Brain drain happened during the Nazi uprising, in 2025 after MAGA took over, and it happens at many game companies that treat their employees badly. But it’s generally poor management and a simple external invitation, not a “stealing” effort.
It's easy to provide a good place to live when you've got tons of wealth. Just because the US treats some people well to score political points, doesn't mean it's a better place to live overall. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, you can see how the US acts when there's no competition. Wealth inequality soars, civil rights get rolled back, social services get cut, and the cost of living goes crazy, including the cost of schooling that was supposed to put us ahead. It's why the US screams endlessly about how dangerous China is, because they don't want competition that would require them to provide some benefits for their peasants so they can continue thinking the US is "the greatest country in the world".
So idk if you've looked outside lately, but the USSR doesn't exist anymore, and the United States.... Does
You judge socialist states by their worst blunders while forgetting half the shit the US did around the world. Then you people argue that socialism could never work-- while living under an economic system that only works for rich pedophiles.
No, I judge socialist states because I was born in one. I'm not an American, I'm from Baltics (Latvia SSR)
Why do you think they are arguing? They are comparing.
We all do it every day, it's unavoidable and will never die until the last human is dust. You need to keep a stiff upper lip and carry on. Be brave! Comparisons can't hurt you.
It's relevant since the US is an actual, current threat. Arguements don't happen in a void, what about the fucking thing happening right now is a valid argument under a lazy irrelevant post like this one
"But Russia (China's ally)"