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Nah, in reality the majority of anarchists joined the Soviets just fine. Proletarian and peasant anarchists joined the Red Army and banded together with the rest of the proletariat and peasantry. The remaining anarchists were largely petite bourgeois, bourgeois, etc, and this makes sense, as the new socialist state worked in the interests of the working classes while it continued to work against the petite bourgeoisie. In other words, socialism was liberating for most anarchists, but continued to oppress the minority of anarchists that did not gain from socialism.
The narrative of Marxists stabbing anarchists in the back is meant to split the left. Of course there's ideological disagreements, but the idea that the anarchists were so weak and ineffective that they got rolled completely makes anarchism entirely unconvincing. The reality is that the majority of anarchists didn't actually fight back, they fought alongside the Marxists and generally came to Marxism over anarchism. They were fantastic comrades and their victories in defeating the Whites with the rest of the Reds is erased to keep leftist infighting going.
I agree with this. But I will say "Anarcokiddies get the wall" jokes really don't help either when they pop up.
Lemmy is the first instance of MLs I ran into that were not just assholes. And I mean racist, sexist, etc. They then turned around and made jokes about killing anarchist.
I find the constant random shitting on anarchist around here annoying in general. I'm fortunate that I joined hexbear first, cause fucking hell I'd probably already be gone and wouldn't of learn shit to change my veiw.
Course I'm just blocking them at this point. But idk, would like for others anxious About MLs like I was to be able to learn
Can't say I've seen MLs be racist. I've seen sexism in some bad orgs, and some orgs have been transphobic like the CPGB, but either way, sorry that that's been your experience. Marxism-Leninism is a liberatory ideology that stands against racism, sexism, and transphobia if one is to actually follow dialectical materialism.
I will say, the anarchists that constantly joke about killing communists and "tankies" is also a problem. It's a two-way street, and usually arises from being entirely too online and not touching grass.
At the end of the day, I disagree with anarchism. I abandoned my anarchist past and agree with Marxism-Leninism, and that's only gotten firmer over time. At the same time, I really wish the slapfighting would stop, either have a real conversation or work together.
I definitely agree with that
And I'm also sad that had been my experience. It created a lot of anxiety with how man MLs there were and the two IRL I met. Very glad its not the norm like I was afraid it was.
my opinion of mls when i was younger was very much influenced by knowing ones irl who were on the more misogynist/transphobic side, unfortunately common in eastern europe. it's a large part of why i gravitated to anarchist organizing.
since then i've run into mls through organizing who ended up being great comrades (many of whom were trans) and it really made the ones who are sexist seem like the anomaly.
i don't like seeing the infighting from either direction at this point. it just feels monumentally counter-productive when there's actual fash running around making lists of us. they certainly don't care about the distinction between tendencies, anything other than solidarity is kinda doing their work for them.
Exactly. As long as we are fighting for something better then thats all I care about. I have difference of opinons with people but in the end it wont matter cause material conditions and local environments will prevail for the best for people as long as we fight against bad faith actors and out right fascist.
I actually felt so much better and very happy the last few weeks knowing that those assholes were an outlier. I want more comrades not less.