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Hundreds Of Former 'Gator Gulag' Prisoners Can't Be Found, Is That Bad? (www.wonkette.com)

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As of the end of August, the whereabouts of two-thirds of more than 1,800 men detained at Alligator Alcatraz during the month of July could not be determined.

Hey, remember how back in 2018 Trump’s immigration people just didn’t bother keeping records to match parents to the children they took away at the border, and as late as 2024, as many as 1,360 children still couldn’t be returned to their families? These detainees are adults, though, so maybe disappearing them from official records is less scandalous. They’re only illegals, so it’s not like they’re people.

. . . “It became a game of chicken to see who’s going to blink first, to see if the client’s going to say ‘I don’t want to be detained in these conditions, just send me back,’” said Miami immigration attorney Alex Solomiany.

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[–] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

By not always, do you mean never?

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There have been plenty of times when if you're in the right zip code and you have the right ethnicity, it's honestly a pretty great place. It just doesn't stay that way automatically, and where it goes if people don't keep fighting it into shape is pretty horrifying.

[–] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So sometimes, in select places, for select people

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, pretty much.

Every single American except the 1% used to work in conditions much worse than an Amazon warehouse, and then they spent several decades fighting for better, and after a while it worked, and that's why your grandad had a union and could buy a house in his 20s.

Black people used to not be able to vote and could be killed for more or less no reason but "uppity," and then everyone fought for better for several decades, and long story short one of them became the president.

My point is, you can fight for better, or it can stay as shit (and in fact get worse). Pretty much all those select places and select people were created to at least some extent by the people that came before them fighting against the injustice and corruption, instead of just saying "what a bunch of bullshit, there is corruption and there shouldn't be." You can't always make it happen for you but over time it happens for the next people up. Or it goes down.