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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 133 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

The collective memory of how dangerous milk was before pasteurization has been lost. Just like with polio before the vaccine. We're doomed to go back to those days if things continue in the direction they're going.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 10 hours ago

Just to own the libs

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

100%. I think we have the same problem with fascism, too. There is a theory (though I think it's debunked) about approximate 80 year cycles due to people dying off and memories lost and lessons having to be re-learned by the young, since they are ignorant.

Certainly things like vaccines are victims of their own success - the low-info can innocently bat their eyes and claim that vaccines never did nothing for them, nohow, because they haven't seen the alternative themselves. This is why the antivaccine insanity didn't really take root with boomers [1] and older Gen X quite so much. I have no idea what RFK's excuse is, other than probably being a total idiot and selfish asshole out to make money on the "wellness" movement.

[1] My parents were boomers and both of them didn't even believe I was serious when I was first telling them about vaccine denialism I was running across online in the mid-90s. They thought that was a thing of the distant past, when some xtians resisted vaccines, because it was messing with their god's will. And my grandmother, who was a nurse, got very worked up in the 90s when I told her about it (she was silent or greatest generation). I legit think she would have slapped the face of anyone spouting anti-vaccine bullshit to her in-person, since she had stories about the kinds of things she saw as a child and as a nurse when it came to kids dying from now-preventable disease. It made her blood boil to hear that people my age and younger were actively resisting vaccinations. I'm kind of glad she didn't live to see the Covid reaction...

[–] RUN_DMG@sh.itjust.works 22 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The vaccine one sucks because their idiocy can affect herd immunity and hurt people who can't use vaccines for other reasons. But if they want to drink raw milk then that's on them. They're only hurting themselves. I just don't care anymore.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 17 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They’re only hurting themselves.

You're commenting on an article about a woman who killed her wanted unborn child and made another child sick. They're not just hurting themselves.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

“Unborn child” is a paradox. You can’t kill someone that doesn’t exist. Hurting a child who really does exist should get her charged with all manner of crimes, but we’re talking about Florida, so that’s dependent on her skin tone and wealth.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago

Don't be pedantic with a pregnant person who is trying to reach live birth and raise the child about when it's ok to say "child." There's nothing paradoxical about it in that situation. The time to consider being pedantic is when debating with a pro-forced-birth authoritarian who thinks they should have a say in someone else's reproductive choices. And even then, the person who needs to have an abortion at 20 weeks isn't going to think they're discarding a fetus, they're going to think they're losing a child they wanted. At 20 weeks it's about the size of a banana (so it's not going to just idly discharge along with the uterine lining like it's a zygote that just didn't implant) and has a brain, a nervous system, a hardening skeleton, a digestive system, a functioning pancreas, etc.. It's very much their child (and their choice).

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

But if they want to drink raw milk then that’s on them. They’re only hurting themselves. I just don’t care anymore.

It's not that I don't care anymore. I'm actually celebrating their demise. Thank god the stupid Republicans are killing themselves. Will miracles never cease?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 53 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

This ignorance is being manufactured. We’re not “forgetting”. There are many propaganda stations, some quite literally funded by russia to promote ignorance like this in America.

Until corporate news admits that, and therefore its own role in it, this ignorance will continue to grow.

And to be clear; corporate news will never admit that.

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

We don't need Russian disinformation or funding. The Secretary of Health and the worlds biggest podcaster will happily disinform the public on spotify's dime and entirely of their own accord.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

It’s a smörgåsboard of mind fuckery!

[–] manxu@piefed.social 20 points 20 hours ago

The irony was during COVID-19, the Russian population believed their own disinformation, leading to atrocious infection and death rates.

Milk was so dangerous they used to ferment it into Kahlúa before it was safe to drink.