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Most Americans don’t trust AI — or the people in charge of it (www.theverge.com)

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[–] MangoCats@feddit.it -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Whether it’s bombing a school in Iran because Claude fucked up the targeting

I'm going to call user error on that, and I don't think it matters what system they were using - they were going to make mistakes.

an AI agent deleting your email inbox or your production database

The real error there? Conducting risky operations without backups.

creating a court case out of thin air

That's just big silicon-brass balls. Interns do it too, but you don't hear about them. On the other hand, trusting the AI or the intern, that's disbarment levels of reckless.

It makes perfect sense not to trust this technology

Or any technology, until we have figured out what it is, and isn't, capable of doing reliably.

But, plenty of people still play Russian Roulette, for one reason or another. Is that the revolver manufacturer's fault?

being that it’s already been trained on the entirety of recorded human knowledge, I’m not sure how it gets better either

Better editing.

[+] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

but these are new risks of arbitrary severity, from trivial to devastating, that did not exist at all before

I disagree. The risks of arbitrary severity are already there, we have just slowly evolved into handling them how we handle them now, learned (sometimes) from the mistakes either how to handle them better or just accept the consequences as "how things are."

So, I do agree that rapid switching to letting AI handle things will mis-handle the old risks in new and unanticipated ways. Maybe if AI helps us actually build a space elevator or functional fusion Tokamaks or other things like that then that will be creating significant new risks with their own new issues.

we have to do that hard work and be real with ourselves, rather than hand-wave them away because of the potentially thrilling prospects.

AI is just the latest shiny in a long list of shinies that enthusiastic entreprenuers have hand-waved all the hard work around the real challenges away about. I think self driving cars are a pretty good example of how this "disaster waiting to happen" will really roll out - things like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYkv6jvTpCc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Elaine_Herzberg etc. Is it regrettable that Elaine died? Yes - right along with the other 6000+ pedestrians killed by human drivers that year in the US alone.

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[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago

everyone throws their hands up and shouts “NOT IT!” when its time for responsibility and culpability to get handed out.

Oh, like the financial crisis of 2008-9 - bail us out, we're too big to fail - it's not our fault that we rushed into the unregulated territory and ignored all the risk... The taxpayers are the ultimate insurance underwriters.

as the responsible parties are made responsible for their failures and negligence

As such, regardless of technological involvement or not, you must be just about as sad as I am about the current trends regarding responsibility, accountability, enforcement of legal precedents, stability of our systems, etc. In that respect, I'll say the state of AI is more a symptom than a cause.

wait for their insurers to force them to take responsibility, since someone has to hold the bag when there’s lawsuits.

There was a scene in Star Wars (the original: A New Hope) where "the senate will no longer be a problem, the emperor has disbanded the body..." I'm waiting for them to start talking about doing that with the courts, they talk about every other outrageous thing imaginable.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

we must largely agree

I think we do, except, AI is just another (big, powerful, broad reaching implications) tech, like the internet, or computers, or nuclear fission, or spaceflight (artificial satellites), or powered flight, or the steam engine, or steel making, or circumnavigation capable sailing ships, or gunpowder...

None of those things switched on all at once in an instant, and AI has been creeping up on us for 60+ years. The past 2 or 3 have been a rather dramatic acceleration, fulfilling much of the promise and expectation of the past 50 years, but it's still not as great as people imagine it could be - a lot like everything else on the list above. Most people "on the cusp" of those technologies had very different visions for what they would bring to the world compared with what actually happened.

Can we "shoot ourselves in the foot" with this one? Yes, but you could do the same with a rock in a bamboo pole with a little gunpowder, too.