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[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I dunno, mate. Maybe I'm an idiot, but when Putin goes on TV and says a bunch of overtly nazi shit like how LGBT rights is pure satanism, I just can't help believe that maybe I shouldn't be on their side.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Look at it this way: Russia, fighting against an army of actual seig heiling swastika-wearers hellbent on ethnic cleansing, is the lesser evil here.

You vaguely leftist folks like supporting the lesser evil, right?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What about when Ukrainian is are using overt Nazi symbols?

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world -4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

I want to outline what just happened here.

Someone posted a meme making fun of people saying two things can be bad, implying one side (Russia) isn't really bad. Someone replies that the overt nazi stuff putin says is pretty bad.

You reply with whatabout Ukraine nazis.

Either you are agreeing with the point that two things can be bad at the same time, or saying that one side doing nazi stuff is fine, actually because the other side does as well. Which is it?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 6 points 12 hours ago

I want to outline what just happened here.

You did a whataboutism and then someone talked about the original subject and activated your idiot hypocrite trap card

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I want to outline what just happened here.

I want to engage in aggressive strawmanning*

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world -3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Is that the right fallacy? What's the strawman?

[–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

You are saying we are excluding Putin. That is the straw man. Putin is a capitalist oligarch that should have never led Russia and he has come into power due to the reforms led by western interests and the illegal dissolution of the USSR which has caused untold suffering, in ways like you have leeches like Putin that say Nazi stuff.

Now, what you’re “outlining” is just false, anyone who can read English can see what’s going on in this thread. Ukrainian soldiers are openly using Neo-Nazi imagery on their official uniforms. A US backed pro-NATO president is taking photos with these Nazi symbols proudly (while claiming to be a Jewish convert which is a whole other can of worms).

Yes, Putin is using Nazi rhetoric, as is Trump, many other western and European leaders, Indian and Asian leaders, etc. but this does not change the fact that you can find pictures of Zelensky posing with his own countries soldiers wearing swastikas or swastika/SS adjacent symbols like wolfsangel, black sun, totenkopf, etc.

I gotta stop feeding trolls this shit sucks too much energy out of me

[–] SmoothOperator@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Thanks, uh, I'm not SkyezOpen. Sorry if I interrupted your conversation.

Putin is a capitalist oligarch that should have never led Russia

you can find pictures of Zelensky posing with his own countries soldiers wearing swastikas

So you're saying that on OP's infographic we should be supporting neither Ukraine or Russia? Or should we be slightly to the right on the Russia-Ukraine axis because it's better to support a capitalist oligarch using Nazi rhetoric than not supporting anyone?