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Past failures don't define the future of socialism (lemmy.ml)

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The people before us weren't perfect. Their mistakes are blueprints to learn from and build a better world

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[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You understand so little you would likely have to unlearn effectively everything you "know" to even approach 0 understanding.

I’m also finding it a little bit suspicious that Chinese people–whom are propping up the USSR–are replying to me.

Fuck you first of all you massively racist fucking loser. You don't get to be suspicious whitey.

For the record, China is still capitalist,

Maybe, if you have no fucking idea what capitalism, socialism or communism actually mean.

Hell, are Chinese people even legally allowed to use Lemmy?

Not understanding the firewall award.

Actual Gulag survivors have told stories about how horrific it was to be in those camps, too.

Gulag archipelago reader award. (A book so terribly it's been disavowed by everyone involved bar the main author)

Chinese cruelty toward the Uyghurs?

Depends do you mean the real issues that occured during the crackdown on ETIM or the Zenz/US state department fantasy.

Or the children working in factories and producing carcinogenic products for Shein for next to no money?

Views stuck decades in the past award.

What about the Tianamen square massacre?

Categorically not a massacre but a clash between violent rioters and the military acting as riot police at the time, also funnily enough none of the violence was actually in the square.

greenwash

I don't think you know what this word means

The West is pretty evil, but let’s not greenwash the USSR or China.

"My country is evil and constantly lies but I also believe everything they say about their ideological enemies"

[–] PlanchetteGhost@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

I do think China has done some good, but it also doesn't cancel out the sketchiness. I do agree that we could learn from China, but there's also a damn good reason why their phones are banned in multiple countries. There's also a good reason why people are urging people to stop buying from fast fashion websites, which are mostly Chinese.

Please do explain to me how selling carcinogenic products worldwide (from sketchy AF factories) isn't capitalist. Explain it like I'm 5 years old, I do insist. With the way the world is going, I'm even going to use GrapheneOS for extra privacy.

Considering that China is known for its heavy censorship and is in good cahoots with Russia, it isn't racist to be suspicious. I'd be just as suspicious of a person from the USA defending Israel, so it's not like I'm not like I'm going after race. Not to mention, at least 250 people died during the Tianamen square incident. Some even estimate that thousands died, but it was at least 250 people.

I quite literally do not celebrate Canada day because it's built on top of the blood of colonialism. I am also largely not a fan of Christians and have very little patience for a lot of them.

Plus, China has billionaires. Any truly non-capitalistic country wouldn't have billionaires. Nor would they have factory workers working for 75 hours per week.

I'm not referring to any books when talking about the Gulag survivors, for the record.