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Can’t trust Americans or can’t trust the United States because those are two inherently different groups.
both... after electing a convicted felon and rapist to the presidency for a SECOND time, Americans cannot escape responsability in my books
I can’t blame you. But to quote a movie … “A person is smart. But people are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals…”
precisely, I don't hate Americans, I just can't trust them blindly
I trust that their only interest and motivation is money.
Honestly, same here.
Well, one makes the other.
Sorta… But only about 65% of us voted in the last election and of that only 50% voted for these douchebags. And of those, most of them voted that way because of a single R. So I’d guess around 75% of the people don’t agree with what is going on.
So as a concrete example, I’m an American and I’d go out of my way to help most anyone but I am not the United States.
Sorry but the 35% who didn't vote, knowing the threat of Trump becoming president again was looming, are no different than those who voted Republican.
The whole world remember his first presidential term. And we all saw the Project 2025 playbook. The US is in a mess of its own creation.
As a Brit, I too have lost trust in Americans unless proved otherwise.
Oh I know, I don’t blame you in the least. I’m losing trust in my fellow Americans. The whole process was just a major fustercluck. I woke up the morning after with a serious case of dread of what was about to happen. The apathy in this country is a major issue no doubt. I’m hopeful that as shit gets worse and worse, the apathy goes away. If it doesn’t, then Handmaid’s Tale becomes more of a playbook and less a work of fiction.
It already is.
Project 2025 intentionally leads to Gilead.
We are definitely in the first few chapters.
Agreed
Here is one of those people who shouldnt be trusted.
okay so you're saying that we should be safe and play the odds and not trust any americans since the grand majority did nothing to stop this
Sure not everyone is on board, especially how it's going lately, but you do spell it out kind of. Only 65% voted, that's 35% who just decided to like give up or something. A third of you. Then a third voted MAGA, a thorn other.
That's the danger of the stupid third.
Right now, they are a danger for more than just Canadians.
I’m not trying to be an apologist. I’m just saying most of us aren’t that stupid, xenophobic, and racist. But some of us definitely are.
I disagree. Drive out to rural Ontario, read the literal Trump and PPC signs, we're no better than any Red State.
Oof… sorry.
"Impeach Trudeau"
Look, you may be a wonderful person. I know very little about you individually.
But, by your own numbers, the best we can say about almost 3/4 of Americans is that they are complicit in what is happening. The last election proved that they are at least “ok” with a second Trump administration even after everything that was said and done before election day.
Given that, I hope you can understand why the rest of the world needs to take a different view than “most of us aren’t that stupid, xenophobic, and racist”.
Your own evidence (that you presented) does not support your conclusion.
My only conclusion is that the pain numbers haven’t reached a point that requires action. Most people can’t see the forest for the trees and are painfully oblivious to what is going on because of whatever reason. Stupidity, willfully ignorance, it’s hurting the”right” people more, etc.
And by “my numbers” it’s more like 50%-60%. I just want you to understand that just because the government is doing it, doesn’t mean a plurality of the citizens feel the same way. Hell even some of the most ardent GOPers are starting to balk at the shit that’s happening.
Now, with that said, I would not come to the US as a foreigner for any reason right now whatsoever. It’s just not worth it.
By your numbers, 30% of Americans voted to keep Trump away from the Presidency. The other 70% did nothing to keep him out of office.
70% of Americans were happy enough with a Trump presidency that they at the very least did not lift a finger to prevent it. And 50% of the 70% actively supported him.
Was there a car show on that day?
Why now do we want to say that the 70% that enabled Trump “do not feel the same way”?
Americans always tell themselves these lies. Yes, only 65% voted, but the ones who didn't vote weren't all non-voting democrats. About half would have voted Trump if they'd voted. It's not some small minority that supported Trump, it was a majority.
Not voting was a vote for anti democracy. So they got what they didn't vote for.
The ones who preferred Harris, sure. The ones who preferred Trump got what they wanted without having to vote.
So what you are saying is that the overwhelming majority of you participated in the election of Donald Trump.
Got it.
What was your other point again?
In the sense that the government and the people are misaligned? Or is this one of those “you’re united statesian, there are 30 countries in America” takes?
The first. I don’t even know what the second thing is. 🤷
Ah, Threads and some other lower quality social media are full of people making snarky comments to users from the States, saying something to the effect of “we are also in the Americas, so we’re Americans, you’re a US-ian”.
It all basically stems from the fact that in Spanish, the demonym for people from the US is “estadounidense” (United-Statesian) whereas “America” is used to refer to all of North and South America as a regions. People are too dumb to realise “America” has a different connotation in the two languages and it devolves into flame wars.
Ah gotcha. Not sure why that would devolve into flame wars. I would want to distance myself as far as possible from anything related to the US as possible if I had a choice.
This is almost 100% a latin american thing. They're taught that the americas are a single continent. For some reason they're really stuck on this point as if it's some kind of gotcha (it isn't). Everyone (including them) are aware of what nation is being discussed when we say america/americans. They should just get over it.
I’m a fan of pointing out that we aren’t even the only United States in North America.
Did I miss the violent military coup?
I mean, there was that one guy that riled up his supporters to attack the capital. But then 70% of “Americans” participated in his democratic election as President just a few months ago.
Are you suggesting we trust those guys?
There may have been thousands of guns there on Jan 6th but they only found like three in the hands of civilians. You'll know if Americans get riled up enough to attack the capital.
And no, 70% of the population didn't vote for him, he got just under 50% of the votes, but that was only about 23% of Americans.