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this picture will never not be funny

just the absurdity of donald duck putting out that statement (which even makes some sense and fits donald’s overall depressed mood) and mickey mouse being the sly one and contradicting donald, coming out with the upper hand from the argument, is just so amusing.

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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Always hated this meme because Mickey's dialogue is set up to give the confident and condescending "vibe" of correctness but actually makes no sense if you stop and think about it. "Trusting the chemicals in your brain to tell you they are chemicals " when declaring emotions to have material basis isnt hypocrisy, it's self consistency, essentially the reverse of hypocrisy. And if the universe is just a material thing with no basis for intrinsic value, what even is there to "fight" about that? You cannot exactly punch the nature of reality into submission, or change the behavior of the universe through sheer force of will. And if you could, there isn't even a reason given for why you would even want to do so, it's just implied that human values and emotions being a result of material reality is undesirable because what? "chemicals bad" I guess?

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

no, the joke is that you don't actually know that the chemicals inside your brain are actually chemicals. for all we know, we could all be living in a big computer simulation, and your feelings are actually caused by bits and bytes on a computer. so, we only think that we're driving on a brain powered by chemicals because of the things that we can observe from within the simulation, in other words, the simulation makes us believe that we're only feeling love because of silly chemicals doing things. meanwhile our feelings could be much more universal and come from the simulation itself (which could itself be universal), while the chemicals are only a pretense to make the simulation more believable.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 1 points 44 minutes ago (1 children)

That hypothetical doesnt really change what I said though. It would make the materialist position incorrect, but it still wouldnt be hypocritical because it would still be consistent with itself, and it still wouldnt give you any course of action with which to "fight" the nature of the universe.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 1 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 35 minutes ago)

I can’t even get past Donald’s statement which is absurd to me. What actually has “intrinsic value [in the] universe” and what difference does it make if my experiences are “intrinsically valuable” or not?