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You can run docker stacks with external IPs, no? I run all mine from Unraid, through Dockhand as compose stacks, with some ports on the host, others as external IPs on VLANs. But yes, like you I would actually like to move them to VMs so it's easier to backup, and service, without taking the host server offline.
It starts to get like Inception levels of depth on VMs and hosts!
Maybe I didn't get that far, plus, in UnRaid I had 1 tunnel for all the docker stacks, which made it mandatory (for me at least) to expose those services to the internet by having to play with the ports in many of them.
Just to reduce my ignorance, I'll research your suggestion. It seems like I never got that far. Thank you.