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Everybody would be working sooooo sloooowly....
Good, maybe we wouldn't be such a bunch of wastrels if we weren't running around because a website might go down or meeting might be delayed if we don't rush
My job involves fixing machines that unload container ships.
If one breaks down mid vessel it needs to be up and running, my poor performance has a massive flow on effect around the world
Or maybe Just-In-Time supply chains should be heavily regulated. Companies using cargo freighters as warehouse space inevitably leads to everything grinding to a halt when anything gets delayed during shipping. Know how companies used to avoid short-term supply chain issues? They had enough stock in their warehouse to last more than a single fucking day at a time.
But manufacturing companies realized that instead of paying for warehouse space to store excess raw material, they could just throw massive fucking hissy fits whenever a shipping container gets delayed. And the MBAs gave it a nice pretty name (JIT) to make themselves feel smart. And now shipping companies get blamed when manufacturing grinds to a halt, instead of blaming the manufacturers that failed to plan for a single day of shipping delays.
And manufacturing that has the potential to cascade into critical/infrastructure delays shouldn’t be allowed to use JIT. Very little would be impacted when a popsicle stick manufacturer has a JIT delay. But a lot of people would care if chemicals used in water treatment plants got delayed, and they suddenly had no clean drinking water.
Yeah but a day here then the ship leaves late, a day at the next port and the next its never good.
Things tend to always run behind as is. We get notified ships in from 21 to 24ty etc then 2 days before its thr 22nd to the 25th a almost every time
Does it though? Where does the "need" in your sentence come from?
How come the supply chain has no slack to allow for (inevitable) hiccups and accidents? The answer is two part. It used to have them but they were optimized away. It still has them, but you are led to believe they aren't there because putting this pressure on you allows your bosses to extract more work out of you.
And how come the supply chain is so stressed? Is everything that goes through it so essential that a single late ship is a catastrophe? The answer is obviously not, we are shipping gigatons of drivel across the world that gets immediately forgotten in a drawer or tossed in the bin once it reaches its final destination.
If you are shipping essential goods then there is a safety net of supplies at the destination to absorb any issues in shipping (if there isn't, clearly these goods were not essential). If you aren't shipping essential goods, then it's already factored in global insurance markets, and late shipping is merely someone's bank account getting bigger at a lesser rate.
I live in a port city everything comes by boat or train at the same place.
Food everything.
If the boat over stays its time someone pays for the demurrage.
It can get up to 100k a day to have a ship sit there.
Congratulations, you're one of the few.
I strongly disagree (given this system is fleshed out a lot more, obviously). This is the bullshit they sell us at the top of corrupt systems.
I work slowly sometimes because I don't earn a fair wage. Fifteen years ago, I earned a fair wage and I put extra time in that I didn't need to. Today, I do the opposite. This is because my employer today is untrusting, abusive, and exploitative.
Op's post is a very simplified rendering of Marx's Labor Theory Of Value. Marx says that the value of a commodity isn't just determined by the labor time it took to make, but rather the socially necessary labor time.
In short, the average amount of time that a society uses to make a given commodity. So of you, as an individual, were really slow at the widget factory, your widgets don't get more expensive just because it took you longer. You just get fired for being lazy.
Instead, value is determined by this Socially Necessary average, and that average is augmented by technological advancements in production. By extension, Marx says, those technological advancements in turn influence the way production, and therefore society itself, is organized;
The reason people lack access to the necessities of life is because they labor for, say, 8 hours a day, and only recieve a fraction of the value they produce by their labor, in wages. The solution isn't necessarily to give those workers all the money, though pay raises are often a good thing, but to take the surplus value that would have previously been hoarded by a capitalist, and have its use be put towards the betterment of society, and be democratically decided upon in some way.
Maybe, but I would probably be excited to pick up other professions. I feel like I could do drywalling as a side hustle.
This brings up the question of experience and how good you're at what you're doing - because no matter how enthusiastic you would be (assuming you're new to this), someone with 20 years of experience will always be better than you - and we're back at square 1 and putting prices on things.