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Router and WiFi Access Point are different things. There are tons of routers that do not have WiFi.
Yes, but 90% of ISP supplied modems around the world are modem + router + WiFi access point with a unified firmware.
You also can't take the antennas off of those and they are required in order to receive internet.
Yes you can use your own router (I have a Unifi cloud gateway ultra myself and one access point in the middle of the house), but that doesn't mean that disabling the WiFi on the ISP web-software bullshit actually disables the WiFi and doesn't just hide the SSID and make it un-connectable and still use it for this kind of thing and identifying nearby devices.
It also doesn't mean that all the routers themselves like my Unifi aren't using the access points to do the exact same thing (or will in the future). The only way you can actually control that is with openwrt or similar.
Most people in a “technology” forum completely understand this and yet are also still capable of reading and understanding TFA.
No. People here are conflating all routers (what our dumb dumb government forbade) with wifi access points, alleging that the wifi surveillance capability is the reason for the probibition.
In general talk, people mean Wifi access points when they talk about routers though. That's what matters, not what it "really" means.
There are many other types of routers, a large portion of them without any wireless. You only know household shiz. ALL routers have been banned. This is a huge problem industrywide.