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[–] Dremor@lemmy.world -2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)
  • 1921-1922 (Povolzhye, or Volga famine), 5-10 millions dreath
  • 1932-1933 (Holodomor), 3.5 to 7 millions death in Ukraine alone
  • 1930-1933 (Asharshylyk), 1.5 million deaths (seem small, but that was 40% of then Kazakhstan population)
  • 1932-1933 (at the same time than the Holodomor, but in Russia) : 1 to 2 millions deaths
  • 1946-1947: 1 to 1.5 millions deaths

And that's only those who were big enough to be impossible to hide completely.

All of them have something in common: the central government minimised them, and tried to hide them. Some weren't even acknowledged until after the USSR fall. All of them are a combination of bad luck (war, drought) combined with hasty decisions which made what could have been a hard year a generational disaster.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)
  • 4 million dead in the Bangal Famine caused by the British in 1943
  • 1 million people died in a drought in the Sahel region
  • 1.5 Million died in Bangladesh from floods in 1974
  • 1 million died in Ethiopia famine between 1983- 84
  • 70,000 people died in 1998 in Sudan from Famine
  • 2.7 million people died in the Second Congo War between 1998 - 2004 mostly from starvation and disease

All have something in common: The capitalist core ignored people, caused wars or restricted economic at their periphery and let millions them die.

The death toll by the capitalist empires are way higher and going way more recent in history.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Which comes back to my main argument: both have failed, so either both are bad, or we have a people problem instead of a system problem.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Except all your examples from communism are from 80 years ago at least and capitalism is currently failing. The main reason communism failed is because it was under siege for it's entire existence and yet, after 1947 they stopped the famines, reindustrialized and won the space race. The same isn't true for the capitalist world, they are doing the siege.