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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 265 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Maybe the dude was just... you know.

Poor.

Came from an environment that was usually a mess, chaotic, disordered, and he was genuienly impressed by how simple things, in order, can give a significant sense of safety and stability.

Maybe he'd never seen that before, maybe he had no model of a tidy and peaceful living space.

The same scenario could happen with anyone, of any sex or gender.

Man, broad societal levels of narcissism are just off the fucking charts these days... its the literal opposite of solidarity, of empathy.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 91 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Growing up my house was always trashed. Parents with depression and full time jobs don't leave much time and energy for cleaning up, and there's only so much children without guidance can do.

So once I had my own defined space, it was basically minimalist to expedite cleaning. I didn't start getting more stuff, even clothes, until my partner moved in.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Me growing up, it wasn't quite that bad for myself, but some of my neighbors were from... way more fucked up families.

They had basically this exact same 'Wow.' moment, just... coming over, and seeing that... order was possible, things could be put basically back in place after use, etc.

They had no previous concept of it.

I remember going over to one of their houses once and literally stepping in dogshit, inside.

They just... forgot to let the dog out, I guess. Regularly enough that this was annoying but basically normal.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Depression is a bitch, and that makes you not want to clean. Then the grossness makes you more depressed.

Never ending loop.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 days ago

I know.

I've been there.

I did eventually get better... but... it really really sucks.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 67 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Or maybe he was just being nice? I can't imagine being invited to friend's new house and not giving compliments unless im like worried about them moving into an unsafe situation.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You don't need to be poor to learn to catch more flies with honey than vinegar.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately, flies are more attracted to vinegar, so the metaphor doesn't work.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

if he was poor then he's an asshole for having been poor.

people don't have empathy for people who are poor. just malice.

I live an upper middle class lifestyle in my 40s. i haven't been poor for 20+ years, and yet for some people, it's considered something you can never live down, it's an original sin from which you can't ever be washed clean. you would be amazed at how openly hostile and violent people are towards those who are not as economically fortune as they are. rich and privileged people do not regard the poor and middle-class as human beings.