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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

If you’re agreeing he didn’t invent shit

Not even slightly, but I don't particularly feel like going on about how no human creation is truly original, waxing interminable over the distinction between symbols and concepts or, you know, defending a nazi right now.

it will be with this burden attached

Probably this will be forgiven provided they don't do anything more indicative of actually being Nazis. I'm not sure it should be given the spectacular process failures needed to knowingly email out a bunch nazi symbology, their history of trans/homophobic jokes, their insanely miserable work culture... but it probably will be, much as all those previous examples were. It's depressing.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wait, they have a history of bigoted jokes?

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

To their credit not recently, but it's all stuff similar to this nazi email:

https://dailydot.com/parsec/gog-transphobic-joke

deeply tasteless but believably just really dumb mistakes, until they come in and clarify that that they knew what they were doing the whole time.

Even then it's not unforgivable it's just... really stupid and tone deaf. But the examples of them being really stupid and tone deaf keep piling up and it's getting harder to overlook.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah that's tasteless, but the sort of think you can look past, especially 8 years later, but it definitely doesn't look good in combination with this.

[–] lath@lemmy.world -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not even slightly, but I don’t particularly feel like going on about how no human creation is truly original, waxing interminable over the distinction between symbols and concepts or, you know, defending a nazi right now.

But in a way, we kinda have to. I mean, are the nazis today the same as the nazis which started this movement or are they a separate entity and should be treated as such? Are all the nazi groups today are their own inventions and should they be granted the so-called 'honour' of having invented their particular brand of 'doppelnazism'? Or should we reserve that for when one particular branch starts calling itself something else and only looks to have been inspired by nazism, but is something else entirely?

Yeah, history is a continuous chain reaction. And the problem with fixating on specific points as the start of something has the disadvantages of ignoring everything which lead up to it and disagreeing on which point to put an end to it.

With your point of view, nazism ended with the second world war and what we suffer now is something different. A new invention as you say.

With my point of view, the dude didn't invent shit and just stole what was already there and now we're dealing with more of the same, the major difference being there's no new brand of terror to set them apart visibly.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

But in a way, we kinda have to.

Uh, no? No we don't? I've already expressed an utter lack of interest in arguing about this with you - this hasn't changed. And please stop trying to force acceptance of your position onto me, this is the second time you've tried that and I'm still not going for it.