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[–] queueBenSis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

outright bans just allow black markets to flourish. harm reduction and public safety campaigns would go much further

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 51 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

We wouldn't be banning vaping, we'd be banning disposable vapes.

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

we should ban all forms of smoking

[–] new_world_odor@lemmy.world 37 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

As someone who vapes quite a bit, I would genuinely love to see this. Disposables are an absolute shitshow and never should have existed in the first place.

[–] YeahToast@aussie.zone 0 points 5 hours ago

Vapes should never have existed? Smoking rates and nicotine addiction were finally going down... Then the good old invention of the vape brings it rocketing back again.

[–] Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Seriously. I struggle to fathom how running out for disposables is even slightly more convenient than refilling a proper tank every so often and replacing the coil. It tastes better, lasts longer and makes much less waste.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 hours ago

you've not met humans before ?

[–] new_world_odor@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

I think it's the marketing of it. A decent amount of people I've talked to genuinely don't know that there's a reusable option. This also changed when the tobacco industry got involved. Vaping used to have more of a culture of cessation. It was talked about how you could transition from cigs at a higher nicotine level, then bring it down until you're vaping zero nic, then quit that. I barely hear anyone talk about the quitting pipeline anymore. I don't think it's an accident, I think it's intentional.

Edit: I also think it's the fact that you only have to buy one thing, and the 3 things (device, coils, juice) aren't available in every gas station like disposables are. And the user experience - open the box and it starts right up, no refills, all it needs is a charge once in a while. People are really fucking lazy, by nature. But the cost of all those conveniences is indebted tenfold upon the environment, as destruction and waste.

[–] Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 13 hours ago

I can't argue with that. I started to preemptively keep myself OFF of cigs (entire family smokes and I knew I would eventually pick up the habit). For a while now, most of the talk around it I've heard is just whether or not it's cool or cringe rather than how it can be used to quit smoking.

Maybe the disposables wouldn't be so egregious if you could keep the battery like you used to be able to and just replace the disposable tanks. I think that's what bothers me the most. We had an okay system before that wasn't really complicated and wasn't NEARLY as wasteful.

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

This, cartridges make me feel dirty, let alone wasting a entire li-ion cell too.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

It makes you feel dirty, but the question is do you still do it anyway - and if the answer is yes, that's the problem. because that's what drives the whole industry.

[–] new_world_odor@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

There are some shops that will actually collect the vapes and send them back to the manufacturer for recycling. But it's less common than it used to be, which frustrates me to no end, it should be the reverse if anything.