There's no practical utility in fighting against democratic socialists. They're not a problem that needs solved. It's a label used to organize people who are looking for an easy every point to leftist organizing. Most DSA "socialists" I know are actually radical dual power ML Communists already.

Complaining that DSA socialism is ineffective is like complaining that the first rung of a ladder is too close to the ground.

Just focus on building up the stuff you like better. Instead of explaining why voting is insufficient, point people towards what is.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago

Scientific socialism is a science. We build on foundations and knowledge gained through years of experience, and we've learned that acheiving socialism through voting and electoralism in capitalist dictatorships is not only impossible, inneffective, and a dead end, but a drain on people's energy. If people keep treading the wrong roads, and through historical ignorance keep making the same mistakes people have made hundreds of times, then we aren't doing our duty.

It's a label used to organize people who are looking for an easy every point to leftist organizing.

No, as the post stated, its a western-chauvinist / supremacist dogwhistle to agree with CIA talking points and demonize existing socialist states as being "not democratic". Western supremacy is the root cause of many of these issues that should be tackled at the root instead of being allowed to fester and grow.

Just focus on building up the stuff you like better. Instead of explaining why voting is insufficient, point people towards what is.

Both sides are equally important: showing what doesn't work, and showing what does work.

[–] Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago

They're not a problem that needs to be solved, but a dead-end.