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A year has passed since Commodore, the computer brand many of you know and love, came back from the dead under new ownership. The comeback is picking up pace too, with a lineup that already includes multiple Commodore 64 Ultimate editions, a C64X PC, and a licensing program that invites outside builders to use the name. Now, they have announced a return to the phone market, and not in the doomscrolling glass-slab avatar we are all used to, but in a retro, very equippable flip phone format....

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[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 70 points 1 day ago (7 children)

This phone should cost $150 max. What's with dumb phones charging smart phone levels of money?

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago

For real. You can grab a cheap used phone for 80 bucks, put lineage on it, and never install any apps except for the very basic preinstalled ones. Boom, dumb phone

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I agree it's too much money. But for the record it's not a dumb phone, it is a smartphone running sailfish which can run android apps in a sandbox

However for less money, the Sony Xperia 10 III with Sailfish OS (Xperia 10 mk3) is a better buy.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 22 hours ago

They are definitely charging way too much, the price and the browser block are the only reasons I am not buying one. I think they could reasonably price it at $250 based on the hardware and that it will certainly be a low production run which massively increases the price. Also, that Sony with SailfishOS is both old (it was released over five years ago) and refurbished, not exactly a fair comparison.

[–] Foreigner@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I think I just found my next phone. Do you have any experience with the phone?

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I own one but I haven't put a sim card in it to test the actuall phone aspect yet.

My initial criticisms are:

  • because each app is in its own jail, there is no way yet to set a global DNS setting like one can do on android
  • there is no native mullvad VPN app
  • all android apps are in the same sandbox, there is no out of the box way to have an android app isolated from others
  • there is no work profile
  • the gesture based ui is weird and id rather have more navigation options.
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I love how people throw around "it's too expensive". But did you ever try developing a relatively small batch gadget for the market? Plus as others said, it's not a dumb~~p~~ phone at all.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Being too expensive doesn't mean they are necessarily gouging. My wife crochets blankets as a hobby, but she'd have to charge a stupid amount to sell them at a profit if she used decent yarn and valued her time at even minimum wage. Said blanket would be "too expensive" without a doubt.

[–] GalacticRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Isn't there a whole lot of small volume 'phone' companies that are charging far less? Nothing Phone, or the plethora of Chinese companies like Unihertz come to mind.

[–] noodles@slrpnk.net 3 points 17 hours ago

Sidephone, key phone, ikko one with the optional keyboard, upcoming clicks communicator, and dumber mini are all modern semi-smart keyboard phones at or below their discounted introductory price for the base model, with similar enough specs in most areas. Most of these are on some sort of privacy AOSP rom too.

And that's not including all the unihertz, blue fox, and other Chinese phones that would compete

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 0 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

The cheapest Nothing phone is $500.

Unihertz is also $499.

???

[–] GalacticRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Unihertz literally sells a dozen more powerful phones for less than $500. Their cheapest phone currently which still is a better offer is $100. And Nothing's cheapest phone currently is $419, still cheaper than this vaporware phone.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

Agree, was thinking the same thing. I would have considered it at that price..

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

This "dumbphone" runs 99% of Android apps.

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Higher end camera and a HD DAC (maybe high power audio output?)

Those sorta things are expensive

Also it runs 99% of android apps

Probably also a low volume product which increases price

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

99% of android apps

I'm certain that the number is inflated by the massive amount of slop and shovelware that is in the play store. The missing 1% is the apps that you actually need, like banking and such

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

its an initial offer model and it does look to have lots of modern tech components in it

the price seems reasonable to me, especially if its got a designer edge to it