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Immigrants aren't taking jobs. The ruling class leverages their immense power in society to push down wages of the entire working class and instills fear of speaking out through exploitation of the desperation of immigrants.
If immigrants are employed then isn't that a job someone else could be doing?
"Jobs" are not a finite resource. That's just the broken window fallacy with a dash of bigotry.
Or from a macro-economic view, since immigrants are also consumers, studies typically show that immigrants increase aggregate demand for jobs more than they increase aggregate supply.
Do the jobs that are taken by immigrants create jobs in the same field that the person who lost the job can be employed in? Because it creating a job in some other unrelated field doesn't really help the original person. Nor does the line for someone going up necessarily.
It's important here to clarify, what do you mean by immigrant? Like do H1B status people who live in the country count? Because I can kind of understand you if that's what you're talking about.
If your're talking about migrant people who get desperately exploited then honestly fuck off.
I don't know what H1B is. I'm just talking about people moving to another country in general
Jobs are productive. Every person that is employed grows the economy, so every job done by an immigrant creates another job.
AI has yet to be productive. Right now it's just destroying jobs. Nothing is created, except maybe data center construction jobs.
That sounds dubious to me. Is there a study or something to back up the idea of every immigrant job creating another job?
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-labour-market-effects-of-immigration/
Where do you think economic growth even comes from? It comes from labor! All of the value in the economy is created by labor, literally nothing would exist if it weren't for working people doing their jobs. Then, those same workers who created value with their labor are paid wages, and then they spend those wages to pay for food, housing, utilities, clothing, entertainment, etc etc.
There's a reason so many countries are panicking about low birth rates. Population growth is critical for economic growth.
By the way, you're the one making the claim that "both are bad" - why don't you have to show me a study or something to back up your idea?
From your link
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I think people losing their jobs is bad. And again, from your own link...
And so on.
Sometimes we have to choose between someone who looks different earning a living wage, or Jeff Bezos having a slightly nicer trim on his yacht before the inevitable consequences of his choices cacth up with him. We just can't have both.
Why does immigrant mean someone who looks different? That seems like a strange assumption imo
Fair question.
Politicians talk as if immigration enforcement only affects immigrants. But the data shows that plenty of citizens who look vaguely foriegn suffer substantially.
Citizens who look like immigrants end up living in fear - which could easily be seen as "by design" when compared to historic playbooks where intimidation and distraction were key components for awful people to stay in power.
There's enough work to be done in this country that everyone should have the ability to place a job if they are willing and able. However capitalism demands artificial scarcity to maintain itself, so capitalists artificially restrict the amount of available positions.
What's "this country"?
I was referring specifically to the US given the context of the fascist immigration crackdown, but it applies to all countries.