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But they act like they are poor. We hike down at the river every morning with our dog's and in the way pass a lot of farms. They have RVs, boats, brand new quads or side-by-sides. But they will be the first to tell you how poor they are.
They're probably up to their eyeballs in debt, though.
They are definitely up to their eyeballs in debt. Farm equipment isn't cheap. Several of my uncles own a farm, it's a middle class existence but it's not a comfortable one.
(The 4x4s and trucks are farm equipment and the RV was from the 70s and used for my uncle's RAGBRAI team. No boats though.
Yeah the '79 dodge pick up with a missing fender is farm equipment, the 2024 ford 350 plastered in maga stickers that has never touched dirt, is not.
You know, m....
Farming is subsidized because of pork-barrel politics. They’re paid to grow corn that’s mostly thrown away. Sometimes they’re paid to not grow food.
And much of it is exported. How does feeding China help me? Why should “successful” businessmen get my tax dollars?
Given that I'm in a maker state (not a taker state) and I don't get any tax credits (not married, no kids, not deducting mortgage interest, etc.) — I mean, it is my money. And great, we exported all our union manufacturing jobs to an authoritarian sweat shop.
Well, stop doing me favors. I don't want to subsidize soybeans for export to other countries to prop up authoritarian regimes.
Ok but taking China out of the equation here, I think their point is that it's part of the international trade system, which does benefit you. The US can't make everything, so being able to trade with other countries is a good thing. The tariffs putting a squeeze on that is an example of how interconnected and dependant we are on it.
I’m generally against nationalization. Farming should 100% be nationalized.