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I see a ton of articles posted here about how AI sucks, but this is a big, dedicated community. I feel like there's more to do than just read the news. What can we do as members of Fuck AI to protest against this bullshit? What are you guys already doing individually?

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The Western obsession with creating a "general" artificial intelligence will be its own undoing. It will stop itself when it eventually is forced to recon with the material realities of building infinite data centers and scraping infinite data from infinite monkeys on infinite typewriters. Task-specific AI will eventually win out, simply because it's actually real and not an imaginary god machine.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 3 points 1 day ago

Oh, it's far worse than that. They're going whole-hog on AI here too. Only...

...it's on a strict "prove your project or it gets cancelled" basis. There's none of this "let's just cram this down everybody's throat and see what sticks". AI projects, to get funded and permitted at all, have to establish what their goals are and what the failure criterion are. Without these there's no funding. With them, when, not if, the AI fucks up, the funding is cut and the project cancelled.

There's no doubling down on failure by pushing MOAR FAILURE!

[–] Rugnjr@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Have you ever heard of the bitter lesson? Your suggestion has repeatedly been shown not to work. People want it to work so bad but the data doesn't bear it out: generalist systems beat specialists time and time again.

This doesn't make ai good for society, but specialist systems isn't the right path if what you want is things to be able to do hard tasks

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

You're just making shit up? A tool that does one thing well is better than trying to make an omnitool that does everything.

If you need a hammer, you don't need a hammer that is also a screw driver, knife, spatula, hair brush, plunger, and protein shake.

[–] Rugnjr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 22 minutes ago

See my other comment, but yes, this is a surprising result. It goes against many intuitions, but it's an extremely famous trend in the field.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

generalist systems beat specialists time and time again.

Citations needed.

[–] Rugnjr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 23 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

This is literally one of the most famous essays in AI (it has it's own Wikipedia article) and I mentioned it by name but sure here you go: https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~eunsol/courses/data/bitter_lesson.pdf

As for more recent stuff, people are doing experiments on it all the time, here's Nvidia trying to figure out the best mix of training data (how much task-specific training, how much general-knowledge training for optimal results) https://arxiv.org/html/2606.24747

The entire field is built on statistics. It has many flaws, but this is like, the entire thing people are working on actively. Their goals may not be compatible with the flourishing of humanity, but finding the best way to automate various tasks is their one goal.

Even from gpt-1 people have been trying to make fine-tuned models for specific tasks and they keep failing compared to general models.

Elements of this idea do live on though, in MoE architectures, where they take a base model with knowledge of everything, then fine tune various versions of it for different things, and route your request to one of the models fine tuned for your task. This is mainly a workaround for the fact a large model with all parameters doesn't fit in memory so easily even in the massive Nvidia datacenter gpus, if it did, we can be pretty sure it would beat the smaller "experts" in most of the tasks

Also like, china isn't doing different to this? Deepseek (China) and glm5.2 (China) and mistral (France) and various other models are doing the same thing, because that's the thing that works (for the narrow definition of ai success that tech companies and politicians believe in)