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[–] EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

It's really hard for me to wrap my head around why it's so easy for certain extremely online guys to hate women so much and so easily.

I encounter a little bit less of it on the fediverse but it's not immune either. Yesterday on lemmy someone posted something making fun of women who get plastic surgery, and pointing out that they were being kinda misogynist* got a lot of replies about how men are the real oppressed class and you can never make jokes about women and other incel bullshit. No where is immune.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Don't get discouraged, engagement is the only weapon.

[–] EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app 5 points 2 hours ago

Thanks, that's a good reminder <3

[–] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Supply and demand in dating social spaces, virtual or in person.

In person non-dating social interactions have been steadily declining.

When all the red pill shit first started coming out it was ironically more about self-improvement followed by pick up artist tacticts once you got your shit together.

Still misogynistic at the time and it just continues to get worse. Rather than put in the work to improve themselves, they'd rather go all handmaid's tale.

[–] EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's a thing I still struggle with! Understanding how not being able to date turns them into misogynists. I guess it's entitlement, but I can't really relate to that in this case, so it's hard to understand.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

It stems from a victim mentality, envy, and ego.

When they're chronically online and immersed in social media and entertainment media, they're surrounded by portrayals of happy couples, love, and romance. Eventually, it skews their perception into thinking that they're the only ones who are missing out. They start to feel like life is unfair to them, with love and sex being out of their reach.

That grows into envy and hatred towards men who have experienced it, and especially those who have above-average success with their romantic lives. They compare themselves to those men, convincing themselves that the reason other people are more successful is because of superficial traits like conventional attractiveness or money.

While all that happens, they refuse to consider that their lack of success could be due to their own behaviors or negative attitudes. It's always something else that is stopping them from experiencing love; their ego is protecting themselves from hurt, avoiding the necessary but painful introspection that would snap them out of it.

It culminates in the belief that both women and other men are the reason for their nonexistent love life. They become openly mysognistic, but they also think poorly about attractive men—they just don't show it outside of incel communities because they're afraid to get their ass beat.

And all of that was before this red pill shit. The red pill movement exacerbated it by catching them at various stages throughout their incelification process, affirming their beliefs, and then hooking them in further so shitbags like Andrew Tate can profit off of them.

[–] EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app 2 points 36 minutes ago

I wonder if part of the issue is that we raise kids with a lot of platitudes like "don't rush it, you'll find someone" when the truth is not everyone does find someone and you're not promised a life partner

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

when you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression

The gateway to hate is contempt, and the gateway to contempt is grievance, and grievance comes from externalizing blame for things not going the way you want and not having the character to deal with that properly.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

The gateway to hate is contempt, and the gateway to contempt is grievance, and grievance comes from externalizing blame for things not going the way you want and not having the character to deal with that properly.

Very well said.

The incel mentality is, at its core, a victim mentality.

[–] EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app 1 points 2 hours ago

I like that explanation a lot, thank you.