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Unpopular opinion:
Universal human rights apply to all humans, including Nazis.
Dehumanizing people and denying them their human rights is what Nazis do.
Nazis do have human rights. Including the right to be punished for their actions. Just like everyone else.
But if the governments don't punish them for their actions then don't be surprised if people take matters into their own hands. Which again, would happened to any group of people that were perceived as having too much power and being given too much leeway by the government, regardless of political beliefs.
A right is something you can claim for yourself. "Being punished for your actions" is not a right. I'd even argue that, from a political/social standpoint, punishment shouldn't be the goal: at a minimum, we should seek to reeducate, and if that fails, isolation is the way to go.
That being said, at the individual level, I wholeheartedly condone the punching of nazis.
I'll agree this should be an unpopular opinion. When they deny the rights of others, they forfeit their own.
Society is generally based on social contracts regarding human decency, respect and what apparently are more extreme ideas like compassion and empathy. It's an agreement to be a part of a community, not to exploit it for selfish gain. If they want to do that, at the very least they should be exiled and allowed only care about themselves by themselves.
We need to stop tolerating intolerance. If you're harmful to our species letalone our planet that we share with so many others, part present and future, ostracize or eradicate. This high road shit has gotten use nowhere in the entirety of our planets history but right here where monsters are allowed and encouraged to reign.
I'll also agree to step up to the chopping block if it means I take some of these assholes to hell hand in hand with me.
Granting someone human rights IS NOT tolerance.
And it's not high road shit.
When Nazis attack your state with an army, shoot them in defense.
When they attack your society, arrest them, give them a trial, lock them up and seize all assets they used.
Inestigate their support network and shut that down. Ban Nazi parties, clubs and groups.
Also, fund organisations that help people trying to get out of the Nazi community.
The problem we have isn't that those measures aren't enough.
It's that we don't even do those things, because our politicians are actually in league with them or afraid of them.
This. Does. Not. Work.
Does that mean that from your perspective, the US shouldn't have attacked and defeated the Nazis in WW2 and should have allowed them to stay in power and do their thing instead?
This kinda seems like preferring to sacrifice the human rights of the innocent, to protect the human rights of their murderers.
Welcome to the uncomfortable morality of international relations, where you may be able to stop some evil people, but the costs may involve extreme human suffering and you may not be able to stop them.
Attacking nazi Germany is one end of the spectrum, in retrospect it was an easy choice. The Iraq war is on the other end, it went quite poorly and the internal motivations were tainted. The US war in Afghanistan is up there with it. And there's a lot of gray areas, like theoretically attacking Myanmar today or the bombing campaign that contributed to the fall of Ghaddafi.
I don't think anybody is actually suggesting that the Iraq war for example was moral so I'm not quite sure what your point is.
At the time people were absolutely trying to frame it partially in moral terms. It's the other end of the spectrum, an intervention with some intended moral aim (to stop the attacks on the Iraqi Kurds) that's now nearly universally understood to not have been moral.
"Universal" human rights can be forfeited by the individual by attempting to restrict another's rights.
Done and done.
Lets debate the SS in the marketplace of ideas...
It is sad for us to have to go through such trauma but violently murdering fascists is not dehumanizing. We are honouring them by believing the true extent of their evil, respecting their decision by reacting truthful to reality. It's inhumane to let such sick individuals believe they might be right, when they believe in power being absolute. Natural order is what they want, why deny them?
Trolley problem — save the human rights of billions by sacrificing the human rights of the few who want to tie all of these people to the trolley tracks
Except it's not because killing them isn't the only option
Listen, you don't convert a nazi. Some can come out of it on their own when the right support is present, but here's the thing: I'm not obligated to help someone who's ideology expressly wishes for my death. Until they're not a nazi by both their own and others metrics they're an existential threat that should be eliminated with extreme prejudice by any means possible. If that's reeducation, fine, but that largely doesn't work. When something is actively trying to kill you right now, today, then you fucking kill it back. Especially when it's trying to kill you because your skin is darker or you're queer or your junk doesn't match your gender. I'll stop wanting them dead when they stop wanting me dead.
What is your method to eliminating the active concentration camps posthaste?
It is tho
Doesn't seem like a very unpopular opinion tbh
If you push back on "punch a nazi" you'll find how unpopular it is quite quickly
We are pushing back on "kill everyone accused of being a nazi".
So you see how the OP's caption didn't mention anything about mere accusations, and implicitly assumed that the speaker could discern good from evil? And we then had to point out that in practice it's accusations, not objective fact?
And do you see how the person at the top of this comment chain started at the basis of fundamental human rights, which not include the right to life, but also the right not to be assaulted?
So, the difference you are seeing is not a meaningful one.
Without context, it isn't.
As soon as I post it in a thread about Nazis doing Nazi shit, I get downvoted to hell.
Same with my anti-war stance.
Context is critical though. Often times I see people say things like "we shouldn't stoop to their levels" which, like yeah, we shouldn't have to.
The moral high road is filled with corpses.
It doesn't have to, but things have been allowed to get too far out of control, the political left have not pushed back enough and now we've got people doing nazi salutes out in the open. We are past the point of being able to deal with this to the legal system because the legal system has been co-opted.
I don't know what people like you want. How do you want this situation resolving because all you ever say is what you don't want, you don't want violence, okay fine so how do you want to proceed?
Lmao why do you think there are corpses filling it?
they're too busy playing by the rules and getting killed with nobody caring, because "we're better than all that" is a dumb notion that ultimately makes you a pushover that wouldn't pull the trigger to save 1000 people.
Gee, I wonder why