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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, because then you can't tell whether he says stuff to gain popularity or because he truly believes in what he says.

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Let's say it helped him gain popularity; does it make the situation he is describing less true?

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like you're sealioning. But I'll go along one last time:

It doesn't matter whether what he says is true or not. What matters is what he'll do if he becomes popular, runs for office and gets elected, because if he says what people want to hear to get elected but doesn't believe in what he says, the minute he's elected, he'll stab the people who voted for him in the back.

[–] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Sealioning is a popular tactic for people arguing in bad faith. I don't think I'm arguing in bad faith, I am just trying to point out the flaw in your reasoning.

You are saying that Biden's affirmations have no value because they might be a way for him to gain popularity. First, is this any different from anyone emitting an opinion online? You could say that Mamdani, before he became the mayor of NYC, had the same motivation. In many cases, it's a good thing for someone with good ideas to gain popularity. So this means that you have to evaluate the ideas before judging the person.

Also, it's hard to guess someone's intentions. For example, I don't know what your intentions are, should I presume they are bad and automatically reject your opinions?

Finally, there is a lot of assumptions in your reply. Nobody knows if Biden will run for office, how he will act if he does, or whether he'll stab his constituents in the back.

What you are doing is called ad hominem and it's a logical fallacy.