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[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Turns out the establishment dems were the real conservatives all along. Imagine that. 9_9

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I mean, from the outside looking in the USA has a conservative party and a fascist party. What America says is left wing politics the rest of the world calls centrist.

[–] Leviathan@fedinsfw.app 1 points 4 hours ago

What America says is left wing politics the rest of the world calls centrist.

Center-right.

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

It's not that you don't have an actual left in the US. It's that they're either being categorically ignored and/or shunned into social obscurity by everyone else.

[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

exactly. The Overton window is shifting back to normalcy, but the "centrists" still want to call themselves "liberals" because they have morally normal views on the wedge isssues.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The Overton window is shifting back to normalcy,

Is it? What does "back to normalcy" mean in a country that has been bibartisan far right for decades?

[–] prex@aussie.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

I dont know what bibartisan is but I like it. It sounds halfway to bribartisan?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

but the “centrists” still want to call themselves “liberals” because they have morally normal views on the wedge isssues.

Which they abandon at the first hint of pushback.

[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

You know that meme of Carry Elwes as Robin Hood chuckling? I did that just now, because you're not wrong. (which is the funny part)

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I mean you're absolutely right, but on the other hand this is what it's always been. This country was founded by the first great, and most successful liberal Revolution. Liberals only believe in capitalism. They believed in private property, and by that I mean slaves. They believed in only rich white land owning males voting. And the definition of white was a lot fucking more narrow. Anglo-Saxon motherfuckers. Frankly the country's always been fairly far to the right. Other than a handful of very brief time periods, in which left leaning liberals were dragged kicking and screaming towards decency, the Overton window has always been somewhat to the right. Not this far obviously but still.