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[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

But some people here are denying that any of the bad parts exist and just unquestioningly glaze the government of a nation state.

Show me a single one. This is what you guys always do: pretend that the communist is a religious zealot and the Bad Guy States are his religion, because the idea that support for a socialist country could actually be the outcome of a sober calculation instead of exposure to dark communist magic or something is, i guess, unfathomable? Too threatening to your own ideas of ideological purity and superiority to seriously consider? Anyway yeah, show me one

Like why do they simp for a country so hard that the only thing separating them from a nationalist in that country is the fact that they never actually participated in its culture and have even less of a clue about the reality of living there?

See what I mean? This is fanfiction, you're writing fiction in which communists are the mindless simp wojack and you're the chad who supports nothing. None of it has any connection to reality unless you can show me this "simping". Super cool that you use incel lingo BTW.

And you wanna talk connection to reality? We have people in China, including one with a degree in Marxism, here. We're constantly talking about the actual conditions in the country with people who actually live there. The idea that we're all just sat around telling each other stories about China with a certainty and fervor that belies a complete lack of factual data is, franky, some wild projection by western leftists.

On the one hand we talk about the actual conditions of the country with people who live there, then on the other hand we get to turn around and deal with the most cliche, easily disproven US State Department dogshit about any given socialist country, day in day out, from people like you who think you're rescuing us from our own understanding.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml -4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not even saying that China is bad for a nation state. I'm just saying that bad shit is happening, state-sanctioned, in every nation state.

I've shown people drone footage, they don't believe it. No evidence is enough for people who already made up their mind.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Damn, bad shit happens sometimes in human societies?

Well, time to shut it all down. It's been nice knowing you everyone, but now that I realize there's no point in striving for better I guess I'll see you in the woods. Some stuff happened and now we can't have water purification or modern medicine.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml -3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No, I didn't say either of these things, I think I've been pretty clear about that.

[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago

I think you have not been very clear about anything