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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

We laugh, but the concept of independent thought is a relatively new one in human history. Until just a few hundred years ago, humans generally attributed the thoughts in their own heads to the Gods. If you had a problem, and conceived a solution, God provided that solution, you didn't think of it yourself.

[–] davetortoise@reddthat.com 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I'm sorry but there's just no fucking way this is true

[–] i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

There's bi-cameral mind theory, but it's all very much speculative. I saw a well amde video on that topic, but it's very hard to believe it to be true!

[–] AscendantSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Is it alright for this video to be shared??

[–] i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'll see if I can find it again, it was a person rambling about gods and internal voices.

Edit: see here: https://youtu.be/Ado90kMT_FM Disclaimer, it sounds really bonkers and I don't have the expertise to vet whether it makes sense of not.

[–] ijustliketrains@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

This is the one I saw on it. Definitely an interesting thought.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's not. You can read the things philosophers wrote down thousands of years ago and people didn't think that way.

Probably just some atheist dogma.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

"Atheist dogma?” Heh-heh.

Just because a few enlightened philosophers understood human thought, doesn't mean the ignorant masses, whose entire "education" is what the CLERGY tells them, didn't believe something totally different. Why do you think religion has been such an effective control mechanism for so long, EVERYWHERE?

For most of human history, most people got their knowledge from religious leaders who wanted control, not objective, secular teachers who taught Critical Thinking Skills and independent thought.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

^^^ more atheist dogma.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago

well, i read something similar a while ago. basically, medieval monks used to not sign anything they made, because they believed that they themselves had a small part to play in it (basically the executive arm) while some other mysterious force moved them (through their body) to do the piece of art.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

That’s a very broad and sweeping claim. Do you have any evidence to back that up? Are you making that claim for all cultures?

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, how is that fundamentally different from a deterministic universe? No one can disprove the thoughts in our heads come from a giant rube goldberg machine.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

Honestly, a giant Rube Goldberg machine is a way better explanation for our thoughts than Gods

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I saw the same video, and used the premise recently as an ice breaker, but it's still very much a theory here as others are saying.

It's worth exploring I suppose, but it seems unlikely.

It's just an interesting and provocative thought.

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

stares at microprocessor architecture

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