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[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Platner aside, are you saying if someone had a controversial tattoo at any point in their life, then you would never vote for them?

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

A Nazi tattoo? Yes. I am saying that.

If someone had a Nazi tattoo at any point in their life, I would never vote for them. To me, they will forever be a piece of shit. I don't see how this is a difficult concept to grasp.

[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm actually just genuinely curious. Not trying to attack or defend anyone here.

To me if it was between an actual Nazi and someone with a Nazi tattoo but progressive politics, then I would vote against the actual Nazi.

Are you saying that you wouldn't vote in that case?

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Like, the two candidates are a literal, not-even-hiding-it, Nazi vs. a person with a Nazi tattoo?

If there is a situation where those are the only candidates, I would take it as a sign to move out of my city, state, or country.

[–] tresspass@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

So you would be comfortable if the actual Nazi won by a single vote?

Like correct me if I'm wrong but you think a symbol of hate is so bad and that people cannot change that you would leave the community and let an actual Nazi win?

There is literally no situation where you would go, "I understand that this person at one point in there life made a mistake, but they have demonstrated that they have moved past that and at least they want to improve material conditions and they are not a literal Nazi"

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Your response still lacks nuance, your not asking if they knew what the tattoo represented. Your drawing wide black&white judgments on, in this case, an entire demographic of largely dumb young men with an amarica-grade history education.

If they knew what it meant and to who, then you are correct, let society treat them as such.

Otherwise, you come off as having an inflexable mindset and dont believe people can make mistakes or change.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Please, feel free to give me examples of non-shitty people who got Nazi tattoos. There's just not that many of them.

A Nazi tattoo is not something you accidentally get. Most artists will refuse to do them. You have to specifically seek out an artist who is willing to do one, and at that point, claiming ignorance on what you are getting is an excuse that would only work on idiots.

My philosophy is simple; Nazi tattoo = irredeemable fuckwit. I'm not going to be flexible when it comes to Nazi's. It's insane to me that someone would suggest otherwise.

[–] Bahnd@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Cool, if were going to set the standard. Then you should be able to recognize every symbol and what it represents between cultures, times and historical context.

The fact that you can't identify them all is the point, and I dont expect you to, nor some dumb 20-something year old man with a public education and prospects to join the US millitary to do so either. No one is arguing against you, just pointing out that there is deeper context and a persons willingness to correct it in the future that should be weighed before the court of public opinion passes judgment.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago

It's the Totenkopf. You know the skull on the hats of every Nazi portrayed in media for the last 50 years?

Come on man, this is a losing battle. It wasn't some obscure symbol. He knew what he was getting, just as anyone who gets a Nazi tattoo knows what they are getting. What, are you going to try to claim that someone with two lighting bolts is just a big fan of lightning?