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    [–] alecsargent@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

    I think that most Arch users that want to move to something stable are considering NixOS or GNU Guix rather than Debian.

    [–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 1 points 33 seconds ago

    Been considering giving Guix a spin as an alternative to Debian, I'm used to freebsd but would like something non systemd linuxish

    [–] Mistiygirl@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

    Well, maybe i'm not your average Arch user then.. Don't see the appeal in Nix, honestly, and i'm too lazy to learn. What is GNU Guix? Never heard of it.

    I'm kinda tinkering with Debian Sid atm.

    [–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

    It's strange to see someone move from Ubuntu to Arch, like it, and have aspirations of Debian. Ubuntu to Debian is fairly straightforward, didn't you have to do a bunch of shit to get on and learn arch?

    [–] Mistiygirl@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

    Do you wanna hear the whole backstory?

    [–] fizzle@quokk.au 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    I've been a Debian guy for many years and it's unlikely I'll move away in the foreseeable future.

    Nix is a package manager and nix-os is an OS built around that package management system.

    You can install nix the package manager in debian. I don't use it for installing desktop apps like a browser or office suite, I prefer AppImages for those. However, it's absolutely fantastic for CLI stuff, especially the things you might want as a once off. You can just nix-shell -p <obscure cli tool> and it's just magically there in a new temporary shell, and then cleaned up once you quit that shell. No more adding weird repos to apt, or downloading from github and building, or piping scripts to bash.

    There's also home-manager which allows you to define packages and their configurations, and just roll out that state on any machine.

    These fancy package management tools (flatpak, AppImage, and nix) have dramatically changed the Debian experience. I used to be forever struggling with the trade off between stability and old versions of things. That's really not the case any more because you don't have to interfere with Debian's conservative methodical ideology around stability in order to install and use all the shiny new things.

    [–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 minutes ago* (last edited 15 minutes ago)

    That sounds like a good compromise. I am really enjoying NixOs, but I miss the simplicity of Debian. I'll think about your method.

    You just installed Nix from APT, I assume, but are you still rebuilding a config.nix every time you make a "permanent" change?

    Agreed on nix-shell -p, that's extremely handy.

    [–] 404@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

    Guix (pronounced "geeks") is like Nix (declarative, functional, atomic) but more Emacs (niche, lispy, Free)

    [–] 404@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

    Either that or Void