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[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They are not

you have no other sources than a few historical events

and can I have a verse in the Old Testament used to "control the poor"?

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you have no other sources than a few historical events

So to clarify: you asked for sources. You received sources. You dismissed those sources and asked for more, even though you can't explain why they are not valid to you.

Rejecting evidence is intellectual cowardice.

can I have a verse in the Old Testament used to "control the poor"?

All of it. Let's see: "Don't seek knowledge or you will be punished." "Be fruitful and multiply; kids are ammo in your quiver, not people." "In fact, it's fine to take slaves as long as the rules are followed."

And it all hinges on: "Obey me or I'll make you suffer and it'll be all your fault." It is fear and guilt used to manipulate people too uneducated to think critically about what they are reading and recognize fiction.

[–] IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

  1. verse?

  2. verse?

  3. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. If God was as "evil" as you portray him to be, why would he bear unbearable torture for our sake?

[–] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

Have you even read one chapter of the bible? Genesis 1:

28 God blessed them. God said to them, “Be fruitful, multiply

Psalm 127:

3 Behold, children are a heritage of Yahweh. The fruit of the womb is his reward. 4 As arrows in the hand of a mighty man, so are the children of youth. 5 Happy is the man who has his quiver full of them.

If God was as "evil" as you portray him to be, why would he bear unbearable torture for our sake?

You're mixing up two things here.

Jesus was crucified. A real man was murdered. That was not god, god is not real.

The god described by the bible is 100% evil. He had all the power, chose to make us suffer, guilts us for it, and calls that "love".

The idea that god sent himself to die to solve problems of his own making is a later addition that makes him seem weak and stupid. Nothing is necessary to an all-powerful being.