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submitted 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) by vogi@piefed.social to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
 
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[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 81 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (8 children)

Its true there is a fan in the base of all bladeless fans, but the fan is smaller then traditional fan designs and moves the same if not more air then traditional fans.

Air is pulled in through the base and forced through a thin slit. This fast stream of air creates an area of low pressure, drawing in and amplifying surrounding air behind the slits.

Because air "sticks" to itself, when you get some air moving (by breathing out, for example), the initial bit of air that you move "drags" some air with it from beside and behind. This is what Dyson calls "air multiplier technology".

Dyson uses this property of air to claim that they only have to move a fraction of air (with the fan in the base) of all the air that blows past you.

Here is a example of how this works, and how you can use one breath to fill a large bag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAAelB7nN14

Here is a image of the multiplier effect, from the original intake of air at the bottom. You can see the air is multiplied from behind and infront of the fan.

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[–] ToxicWaste@lemmy.cafe 80 points 5 hours ago (8 children)

still a miss-labeling to call them bladeless fans, just because the blades are hidden. by that logic my beef raviolis are vegetarian (tbf: the catholic church made a similar claim during the medieval ages).

Bernoulli Fan is not only more accurate, it also sounds much cooler.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

This is such a rollercoaster to read LMAO

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

To play devil's advocate, there are no exposed blades at the point of use. I'd wager people who buy "bladeless" fans are more concerned with aesthetics and avoiding a crying toddler than they are with semantic accuracy. We call Wi-Fi "wireless" even though the router is plugged in.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Regular fans dont have exposed blades either, there is a mesh over it.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 minutes ago

I take it you've never seen a toddler stick their fingers through the mesh

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 10 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I can stick my peepee into a bladeless fan and not worry about cuts so there's that.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

well, no, see, you can't.

you can stick it through it. but you can't stick it in it.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You can't tell me what I can and can't do with my own peepee.

[–] stevles@aussie.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

Username checks out

[–] ToxicWaste@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 hours ago

at work we have expensive fans with a cheap metal mesh around them - to avoid a crying co-worker. at home i have a cheap tower fan with a weird plastic mesh - there are no visible blades on it except if i crank my neck into a really uncomfortable position and shine a flashlight into it. which one of the two can i call bladeless?

luckily i already have a devils advocate and @arctanthrope@lemmy.world dropped the name of god. how well do i need to hide my fans blade to create a Ventilationbescheißerle?

[–] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

there's a type of German meat dumplings called Herrgottsbescheißerle, which literally means "little things that bullshit the Lord" for the same reason

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

Oh my god that makes so much sense suddenly

[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well, Beef comes from cows, and cows only eat vegetation, so beef raviolis are vegetarian. Now, I’m not a Rocket Biologist, but I think the math here is pretty conclusive.

[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago

Is this what a rocket biologist specializes in?

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

The cynic in me thinks "bladeless" makes them easier to sell in fan-death countries.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

(tbf: the catholic church made a similar claim during the medieval ages).

Carpinchos (capybara) are fish.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

Tesla sounded like a cool name for a car too...

You know ... Bernoulli Fan - that's way better idea than a room full of MBAs from expensive business schools and months of market research and focus groups with 2 way mirrors ever came up with. Well done

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 30 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (2 children)

A traditional fan also pulls air from around its blades using the same principal. A bladeless is just a gimmick it has no actual benefits.

Here's a video on the subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySSo5PmZZJM

It turns out, a bladeless fan is even less efficient than a traditional one. It works better, when you remove the casing.

[–] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Thank you.

Much like Sharper Image's Ionic Breeze, this is a very expensive bullshit tower, but I am seeing them everywhere lately. Box fans are fucking amazing. Get a box fan.

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

it has no actual benefits.

  • no toddler will put their hands in to it
  • can look better for some people
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago

Toddler hands don't go through the protection of a classic fan, if it's built like after 1965.

Also we were not discussing esthetics but efficiency.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Smaller fans = more noise

And why isn't a regular fan getting the "surrounding air" to move too? Is there a subscription for that?

It's most probably dyson bullshit (the moved extra air is slowing the original air down, or it's magic) marketing.

Magnets!

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I got one years ago when they still were a lot cheaper and I must say it's the best one I ever had. It's powerful and so quiet that I can leave it running next to my bed when it's hot.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I don't really remember, it's been years. I think it was somewhere between 100-150€.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

So 3-5 times a normal one... Kind of not cheap IMO, but if you like it...

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I didn't say it was cheap, I said it was worth the price.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

And what kind of fan could you get with that money.. Pretty sure I could get an industrial one that exchanges most of the air in my house in minutes or even seconds.

[–] vogi@piefed.social 21 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

unironically love Lemmy for the explainers you get on a shitpost. Only stumbled on this cause I was looking it up myself. Thanks for the write up :)

[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Keep in mind, that the explanation is wrong.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, dyson bullshit marketing.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Just like their hoovers then.

Used to have to use one and I just don't understand the bagless appeal. I like having a bag to contain all this awful dust. Felt like I needed to wash every time I emptied it and they fill up so fast in comparison too.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 15 points 6 hours ago

Sir, this is a ~~Wendy’s~~ shitpost community.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It’s the same reason I use a beef bouillon cube in place of real meat when I feed my vegan friends. It’s much smaller so it doesn’t count.

[–] fulcrummed@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

My god, the sass - it’s magnificent.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 7 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Fans are usually loud in proportion to their speed. Quiet ceiling fans have a big diameter and many blades. Doesn't a small fan cause a lot of noise?

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 hours ago

Honestly depends on speed, quality of bearings and motor, blade geometry and thickness as well as any possible enclosures.

The biggest source of noise with fans is air cavitation.

I just imagined someone turning on a fan and hearing an electric f1 car drive by

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

i don't think the point of the post is about being useless or inefficient, but about the misleading name