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Just FYI resistance training is not bodybuilding (flexing biceps in the mirror like in meme above), so choose your search keywords/programs carefully. Most athletic people I've seen (especially runners) often look like they have no muscle(edit: since people misinterpret this, the word "look" is about general appearance, not what's under the shirt). Biceps have nothing to do with longevity. In fact, extra weight is extra load on heart.
*Edited for clarity since too many misinterpreted.
Correct. Bodybuilding is a presentation sport with a variety of rulesets and judging criteria. Resistance training is a form of exercise with many proven physical and mental benefits
Usain Bolt was phenomenally muscular when he was competing, as are most sprinters. Many recognized Olympic sports reward larger physiques
You have my permission to skip direct bicep training.
Just make sure, assuming you want the full spectrum of proven benefits, that you hit your pulls (such as rows and pull ups, or appropriately scaled variations). This will heavily involve your biceps just so you know, but the main focus is the back.
Dangerous medical misinformation, you should delete this. Resistance training has proven cardiac benefits. There is zero risk of acquiring “too much” muscle mass
There is no way those guys walking around at 6'1 300 lbs and sub 20% body fat are not taxing their hearts more than a similar height person of normal weight/bf%.
Are you implying 20% body fat is low?
It kinda is if you're a woman. Of course there's not very much overlap between women and 6'1" 300 lb guys.
But yeah, the problem there is the abuse of steroids and growth hormones required to get such a body. That will fuck your body up in various ways you might not even notice at first.
It should go without saying that illegal drug abuse causes countless extreme health issues
You may be surprised to learn that non-drug abusing bodybuilders usually max out around the 150-170lb mark on stage. There are very hard limits to how much muscle your body will let you build
That's really weird because most bodybuilders I know don't really go below 75-80kg. Yes, I know many as I used to go to the gym, studied as mechanic and I'm from a small city that's focused on gyms and outdoor fitness areas.
I myself weight 78. Most of my muscle is lower torso since I've been cycling and mountainclimbing much of my life.
This is dangerous medical misinformation. Reduced mobility, joint stress, cardiovascular strain, heat intolerance (quite important lately), compartment syndrome, rhabdomyolysis risk, etc. You can most absolutely ruin your health by having too much muscle mass. Last I checked, in statistics bodybuilders have quite terrible longevity as opposed to resistance training folks (which basically shoots in the opposite direction of longevity).
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40393525/
EDIT: Non IFBB study: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9885939/
As someone mentioned, any such study is poisoned with the fact that many bodybuilders reach for steroids, but in any case when you look at data of bodybuilding versus resistance building, you gotta raise an eyebrow.
Perhaps once you understand why you are wrong, and you realize how much your error has the potential to harm people, you will apologize.
This study is definitionally unrelated to any form of resistance training, or the additional total body mass that you can acquire via resistance training.
It is an observational study on the outcomes of IFBB contestants. For anyone who doesn’t know, the IFBB is the primary bodybuilding federation for drug abusers. They run the “Mr. Olympia” contest which you may have heard of.
The drug abuse they glorify directly results in many extreme health issues including sudden cardiac death, in exchange for levels of muscle gain that far exceed what is possible for any natural athlete.
I want to be clear. What they are doing is extreme, illegal, dangerous, and critically, not related to resistance training in any meaningful way. The body will not allow you to become so muscular that it harms you, which is why these extreme athletes need illegal drugs to become so large in the first place.
It is shockingly irresponsible and ethically wrong for you to withhold this necessary context, and to so severely contort this paper into your unrelated false conclusion
Why would me pointing to a study that shows worse health for just body building (as opposed to resistance training) show data about resistance training? The study is about pure body building that focuses on muscles like biceps, just like the meme above, the thread I'm commenting on.
The discussion is essentially "Cardio vs Weights". I'm pro-cardio. You are not going to convince me of the opposite. I truly believe in longevity of resistance training as opposed to body building (focused on simply muscle growth), or whatever is your/everyone's goal here.
It isnt. It is sensible people talking about training vs you being weirdly combative
I think you should re-visit my very first comment.
Bodybuilding is a form of resistance training. And there are multiple forms of bodybuilding, some healthy and some significantly less so. The above trainer seems to be talking about a sort of general fitness and casual bodybuilding that is indeed good for health and longevity.
Running is great, in moderation. But having reasonable amounts of muscle mass is also great. Most people are going to have better health outcomes looking like Brad Pitt in Fight Club rather than Edward Norton
I was talking contextually (context matters here). The meme shows a guy flexing his arm biceps. Scientifically biceps hardly relate with longevity and resistance training, that is just bodybuilding. My point was to simply point people more towards resistance building rather than simply muscle building. I'll be honest - I skipped half of the comment I was replying to due to me being in rush
Lmao gottem(me). Fair
Who mentioned bodybuilding? Did you mean to respond to someone else?
The meme is about bodybuilding. Your comment talks about resistance building as if it's the same thing