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[–] nialv7@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

they are evil, but they are not illogical. there seem to be a confusion between logic, which is objective, and morality, which is not. they are reaching the logical conclusion of pro-life from their morality, which is evil.

i think the mentality of "they are evil, therefore they are not logical, therefore there is no point trying to talk to them" is very unconstructive. because it rules out the possibility of change. if you think they cannot be changed, what else can you do? wait for them to all die, then we'd all be living in paradise? or throw 40% of US citizens in prison?

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Many of them are illogical, or have logic descending from extremely dubious axioms.

For example, "abortion is murder of an innocent baby" + "allow abortion for rape or incest" don't square well together, but see commonly seen together.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The "abortion is murder" crowd is against it up until it personally affects them.

I once had to dodge a punch because in an argument with someone I used to go to church with as a child, I brought up his own daughters getting pregnant as teens and him taking them 3 states over to get abortions.

Apparently "that's different and you know it"

Besides, who gives a shit whether their logic is internally consistent when they can just ask sky daddy to forgive them and they'll get into heaven no matter how many (according to them) babies they murder.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Apparently “that’s different and you know it”

This is conservative thought. Different rules for different people. In-groups to protect, out-groups to bind.

You can also see it when it's like "when I needed welfare I was down on my luck and needed help. When they needed it, they were lazy cheats"

It's poor empathy, poor reasoning, emotional dominance. They are, frankly, stupid

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago

I absolutely love reminding my parents that they have depended on some form of socialism for my entire life

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