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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 21 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (4 children)

I'm hoping that, with the dismal polling for Democrats, the ones who want a future in politics, like Newsom, are recognizing they need to be tougher.

Maybe I'll kick the Hopium habit if/when we're no longer conspicuously moving toward a dictatorship.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I am just super not excited with the new rhetoric you guys are already having about Gavin Newsom being awesome. Newsom has been pretty not awesome for a long time and I fear liberals are going to want to back him in the next election because of this crap.

To be clear, I think he’s in the right on this issue.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I'm very lukewarm on Newsom, and sincerely hope he's never a Democrat candidate for president. That said, griping about his shortcomings when he's on the cusp of doing the right thing is counterproductive.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 14 hours ago
[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 1 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Don't know how to tell you this, but the guy making the rounds on conservative podcasts probably isn't who you want leading the Democrats

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

There is no point in preaching to the already locked-in. You need to find converts in enemy territory.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I didn't say I want him to lead the democrats, I said I want him to gerrymander California.

[–] Balex@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Why is that a bad thing? Should Democrats stay in their echo chamber and Republicans stay in theirs?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago

It's a bad thing because they're doing it to pander to conservatives, not challenge their beliefs. Folks like Sanders, AOC and Mandami are welcome to go on conservative talk shows, but neolibs need to fuck off.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 3 points 10 hours ago

This whole 'reach across the aisle"schtick that the Democrats have been doing for the past 30 years clearly isn't working, and has only dragged the country further and further to the right. He doesn't go out and challenge their views, he tells them why they are gonna love what he has planned for the future.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

the ones who want a future in politics, like Newsom, are recognizing they need to be tougher.

They're recognizing they need to cuddle up to TPUSA and the AIPAC lobby. Hence Newsom's choice of podcast guests.