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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 66 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Blue states should go ahead with plans to redistrict regardless of what happens. Play for the political landscape you have, not the political landscape you want. The way maps are already gerrymandered nets Republicans 16 seats in the House.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 22 points 5 hours ago
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Blue States simply won't do this, because they are not part of a coherent national political project.

They'll bluff and then hope Republicans fold.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (4 children)

I'm hoping that, with the dismal polling for Democrats, the ones who want a future in politics, like Newsom, are recognizing they need to be tougher.

Maybe I'll kick the Hopium habit if/when we're no longer conspicuously moving toward a dictatorship.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Don't know how to tell you this, but the guy making the rounds on conservative podcasts probably isn't who you want leading the Democrats

[–] Balex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Why is that a bad thing? Should Democrats stay in their echo chamber and Republicans stay in theirs?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 22 minutes ago

It's a bad thing because they're doing it to pander to conservatives, not challenge their beliefs. Folks like Sanders, AOC and Mandami are welcome to go on conservative talk shows, but neolibs need to fuck off.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 points 17 minutes ago

This whole 'reach across the aisle"schtick that the Democrats have been doing for the past 30 years clearly isn't working, and has only dragged the country further and further to the right. He doesn't go out and challenge their views, he tells them why they are gonna love what he has planned for the future.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 10 points 3 hours ago

I am just super not excited with the new rhetoric you guys are already having about Gavin Newsom being awesome. Newsom has been pretty not awesome for a long time and I fear liberals are going to want to back him in the next election because of this crap.

To be clear, I think he’s in the right on this issue.

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 hours ago

Toward? Um...

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

the ones who want a future in politics, like Newsom, are recognizing they need to be tougher.

They're recognizing they need to cuddle up to TPUSA and the AIPAC lobby. Hence Newsom's choice of podcast guests.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

CA is moving ahead. It will be on a special election ballot in November.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Newsom "called for" a ballot item to answer whether the state legislature should begin to form a committee to consider redrawing districts by... 202(?) Some legislators think they have enough votes to put the item on the ballot. No official word on what that ballot item to tell the legislature to begin the process will look like, of course. And there's ample opportunity for Republicans to run a bunch of negative ads, for the courts to interfere, and for the national legislature to intercede.

So they've telegraphed a punch two years in advance, while their opposition has tanks camped out in LA for over a month.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

The wise man plants a tree knowing he may never rest under its shade.

[–] relativestranger@feddit.nl 16 points 5 hours ago

they're all gonna pick-up permanent surveillance courtesy of pissbaby abbott, as soon they set foot back in texas (if they don't already have that, wherever they are). then another special session will be called, these rebellious democrats will be denied their constitutional right of free travel between the states, and the house gains 5+ more maga nutcases.

[–] bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml -5 points 4 hours ago

Still a bunch of genocide supporters but ill admit im surprised they actually did something more than A Strongly Worded Letter®