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Yeah it's gotta be the daily allegiance to the flag -thing for me. That shit hella weird.
@kadotux @cm0002 @Bytemeister @merc
Having read the Constitution and Declaration of Independence as a kid (they were required reading in school), it seems to me that the flag should be pledging allegiance to *us*, not the other way around.
Man that shit was hella weird growing up.
I stopped saying the whole pledge in kindergarten. Didn't seem right to pledge to a god I didn't believe in.
Pretty much stopped saying it all together after 9/11
"I pledge allegiance to the the Flag of the United States..."
Unless you think the flag is a god, you're not pledging to a god, you're pledging to a piece of fabric, or to the design printed on that fabric. Which, honestly, is a lot weirder. How can one have allegiance to a flag? What about the opposite, is it possible to be disloyal to a flag?
...To which it stands, one nation, under god...
Huh, just checked the text and I was surprised to find that the god part was only added in 1954.
Yep, because soviet spies were godless heathens who can't/won't lie about their faith in order to sneak into the US.
Yes, god is mentioned as an additional clause, but you're pledging to the flag.
Yes... Pledging allegiance... To a flag.... Representing a Republic... That exists by/for god...
I mean, I didn't look into it that much at first, I was in kindergarten FFS, but I remember thinking it was funny that God was mentioned in the pledge, and how he was also mentioned in the prayers at Grandma's church, and I thought I shouldn't lie and say the "under god" part since I didn't believe.
OMG this. Straight up indoctrination. And our parents were like Rah Rah, GOOOO TEAM!!!!
Shit looks sketchier the farther we get away from the previous world war.