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Trump shares AI video promoting imaginary ‘Medbeds’ believers hope will cure diseases
(www.independent.co.uk)
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Didn't know QAnon was even a thing anymore
It didn't ever go away.
You just stopped hearing about it because you aren't in the right facebook groups, telegram chats, discord servers or using rumble or truthsocial or parler or gab or w/e.
They extreme right made their own platforms and communities and other people tend to just act like they don't exist, but they do, and a lot of them use them.
And also, QAnon ideas literally sparked a mass wave of christian prophets and preachers that just outright worked QAnon concepts into their messages, literally view Trump as God's agent on Earth.
Yeah, none of this ever went away, not at all, it continues to grow and evolve, sort of like a modern digital version of the Nazi/SS syncretic amalgamation of theosophic concepts, nordic religious concepts, christian religious concepts... they just made up their own mishmash religion/worldview.
I always wonder if it’s worth trying to find good resources on what’s going on or if it’s just a way to completely lose your mind.
These ideas are trickling down into peoples’ worldviews right here in Lebanon and it’s getting harder to track. It’s the ultimate big tent conspiracy theory, and it’s supercharging decades of concerning currents in my own society.
Is there a straightforward sane place to read up or listen about this stuff from an outsider’s perspective?
Maybe?
The closest thing I've been able to find is uh, the youtuber Owen Morgan (Telltale).
He started as a youtuber who himself escaped a religious cult in the US, then made a youtube channel originally about cult awareness, identification, de-programming (how to 'unbrainwash' a current or former cult member) a kind of educational channel...
He originally tried his best to be apolitical.
... and then QAnon emerged as a huge factor in US politics, then Jan 6th happened, and well its just literally impossible now to talk about QAnon without politics, as they are so interrelated.
So anyway, Owen did an incredible job, imo, of actually finding (in close to real time) a lot of those insano QAnon preachers and prophets who merged those conspiracies just into a kind of new form of Christianity... he has his finger on the pulse more than anyone else I am aware of, he seems to have lurker accounts in a lot of these groups, and finds their videos and such on less conventional platforms.
But, he basically does a kind of... two-ish vids a week kind of format, covering latest updates within this realm... I don't know that he's ever sat down and made like a 1.5 hr documentary typr thing that would... systematically explain everything in an at least approximately academic fashion.
I also do not know what to tell you for finding info about how this kind of stuff is influencing, or is present in specifically Lebanon.
Anyway, Owen is currently having a grand ole time clowning on the ... gigantic rapture panic that just occured last week in the US, mainly on TikTok.
That’s… concerning.
I definitely don’t expect to find solid resources on the Q fallout in the Middle East. But getting to grips with the actual magical political mechanics that millions of people now believe in? That’s what I want. Everyone around me is using the words “deep state” now, it’s not funny at all.
I think YouTube would nuke my recommendation algorithm from orbit if I commit an hour every week to this guy’s videos. But I’m glad there’s light being shed from that perspective.
I know there was a short podcast series that goes through the cliff notes of the whole thing’s history by Jake Hanrahan some time ago but this stuff has evolved so much since that was recorded like two years ago. That’s more of what I’m interested in, a more journalistic look structured for someone who is a complete outsider.
Your guy is talking from an American Christian perspective, and American Christianity is basically an alien cult to me (I hope nobody takes offense to this, but Christianity here is much more… grand and ancient and focused on bringing people together and not deeply horrifying?). Like you joke about the rapture but American Christians invent a new rapture every other week, while our guys’ rapture is set in stone to be in the indefinite future, and anyone in my society claiming to have a date for a rapture would be referred to a psychiatrist by the clergy. I typically have more bad things than good to say about the church but comparing to what you guys have makes me feel like it’s not so bad at all.
I think the average person is seriously underestimating the horrific damage to people’s mental models of the world this movement? Cult? Politico-occultist messianic dispensationalism? Virulent cognitohazard thing is unleashing on humanity.