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Curious, what IS the best new car brand for privacy? Especially in the EV sector?
Fuck all. Especially in Europe now if mandates you have a camera watching your face in all new cars
So late 2023 models is all you get
This is mandatory in America too, starting in 2027. It was passed hidden away in a "jobs act" in 2021.
https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/2023-07/Report-to-Congress-Advanced-Impaired-Driving-Prevention-Technology_07-17-23.pdf
Your linked article talks about the need to research the tech to stop impaired driving.
It's not mandatory yet, as best as I can read it for now.
It's not an article. It is a report to Congress detailing attempted compliance with a new mandate.
It looks like the mandatory compliance date has been pushed back. So no cameras next year, but if you read the recent report, that is the direction they are going.
https://www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/2026-03/Report-to-Congress-Advanced-Impaired-Driving-Prevention-Technology.pdf
They want it, duh. It don't mean they'll get it. Of course we can't sleep on this either, so your warnings are fair. Thank you.
They already are. Driver monitoring using cameras that watch your face 24/7, though not mandatory, are already shipping in cars from Subaru, Toyota, Ford, GM, and Tesla. It may be more, but those are the ones I know of. You're welcome, good luck.
Guess which cameras are getting the hammer or the duct tape?
Or buy used.
If this disease spreads, we'll need to have a talk with the CEOs and the big investors.
They're hooked into the drive system. That would just shut the car down. You'd have to also significantly alter the software and the modem. I'm with you though. I'll be buying used and just be swapping the drive system for electric whenever that becomes the norm.
That's free money for the buyer in a lawsuit.
We get all the downsides of private ownership with none of the upsides. Meanwhile, the billionaires get all the upsides of private ownership with none of the downsides. Fuck that!
You agree to the cameras when you buy the car, and it's a system that is about to be mandatory under federal law? What would you sue for?
I'm waiting to see regular reviews of those slate trucks and maybe a second model year/iteration. And maybe waiting to see if they eventually get better range. Sure not having a radio or infotainment is overkill, and only hand crank windows is overkill, but for $25k-30k and no big screen, it seems quite reasonable if all I want is a reliable box that moves around.
That's the allure for me. I can choose to buy what I can afford and then at a later date add other options myself as I want them or need them. But the range is an issue for me as a rural person where a trip to a clinic is 100 mile round trip. And if I need more, then it becomes a 200+ mile trip.
https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Category:Car_manufacturers
You're not going to want to hear this but... Tesla. It's always been Tesla. No ads, no subscriptions for seat heaters, no selling your driving data.
For context - I used to own one.
I beg to differ, see Mozilla's "Privacy Nightmare on Wheels" report for Tesla
In short: currently all options suck
Hey, did you actually read that article you linked? It clearly states Nissan's the worst offender, and Tesla's privacy issue was that 2022 data breach where employees shared videos. I'm not defending Tesla, but let's stick to the facts here.
Did you only read the summary or the full report on Tesla? I linked 2 different pages so you can have your facts straight
Are people seriously this ignorant.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/tesla-workers-shared-sensitive-images-recorded-by-customer-cars-2023-04-06/
Nazis lie.
Read up. Elon is not your friend: https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Tesla
You're talking about the brand that is paywalling the auto drive after saying they never would ?
Users see the word "Tesla" and hit the down arrow without considering context or data. Tesla is a terrible company, and Musk is an egotistical, racist manbaby; those aren't the only reasons why I won't buy a Tesla, but they are a big part. The truth is that every big automobile manufacturer is bad when it comes to infotainment user experience and data privacy.
I won't buy a Tesla, and most people I know won't either. But when it comes to the US auto market, Tesla is consistently rated as one of the best user infotainment experiences, specifically because of the things you mentioned. I know someone who bought the 2026 Nissan Leaf, and they love it. I've ridden in it a lot and I think it's a great car... except for the user experience. Every time the car is turned on a pop up covers most of the console advertising satellite radio subscriptions. There's no way to disable it. Nissan is widely known to be the worst when it comes to user privacy, too.
Slate has my attention and I want them to disrupt the market. I'm considering buying one for my next vehicle, with the range being the only thing that hasn't locked in my decision yet. I take several long (500+ miles) trips each year, and I would prefer to avoid having to use Tesla superchargers as there aren't any other fast DC chargers along the route.