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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Genocide began well before independence from Britain.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeah, but the americans loved it so much, they declared independence so they could do it faster

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago
[–] whiskers165@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's worth noting that during the Korean War the US killed 15-20% of North Koreans. That's a higher percentage killed than many genocides and much of it was exacted through deliberate targeting of civilian infrastructure yet it's almost never discussed as a genocide. We hanged Nazis for lesser crimes at Nuremberg

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't realise there was an American Indian genocide, although I did hear a lot about an indigenous American genocide.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Polling of turtle island indigenous peoples indicate that a good majority still prefer the term Indians. You can read Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz All the real indians died off and 20 other myths for the reasons.

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Interesting, thanks.

[–] VeniVerminiVomui@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Source for that 75% claim? Wondering how it's calculated since I've heard ~90% died to plagues the settlers brought, but since 75% is below that it seems like it's calculating something else. Is it referring to some specific time period?

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is possible 90% of certain tribes on the East Coast died of plague. However the vast majority of native Americans were slaughtered other ways.

[–] VeniVerminiVomui@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Over what time period are we talking though?

Like the Wikipedia article says 10-100M and up to 95% died from plagues brought over from ~1500-1618, but I can't tell if the sources are any good/reliable.

Does this count or does it mean that of those who remained, a further 75% got genocided? Or is it referring to some specific even later genocide.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

If we're talking about the time period from 1500 to 1618. Then we're talking about the time. Where we're looking at the islands we're looking at Central America and South America during the Spanish and Portuguese take over those areas. And we're looking at just the beginnings of the east coast in the continental United states. That doesn't count for the tens of thousands of fries with millions of members across the rest of the continent. The slaughter of them came way way after that.