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If you want to claim that the states that have been carrying out repeated invasions, genocides, and other atrocities are "functioning democracies", you have to contend with the fact that you admit your complicity in said invasions, genocides, and atrocities.
Also, not sure why it is not obvious that the politicians in your "functioning democracies" don't even have any responsibility to the working class in the imperial core, let alone the working class of Africa, Asia, and everywhere else - the people whose suffering your empire has built its wealth upon.
Germany is quite literally one of the most enthusiastic supporter of the Lebensraum that is being carried out in Palestine.
The name of these "fringe movements"? NATO.
Also, I will have to remind you that Ukraine, the Baltic states, Finland, and Canada (off the top of my head) openly glorify WW2 nazis. This came to the point where Poland has started complaining about this.
It quite literally did. Georgia quite literally was the one to attack.
So, let's get this straight: you support the NATO-backed Mujahideen fighting against the socialist liberatory government of Afghanistan, you support NATO-backed nazis in Eastern Europe fighting against the USSR, you no doubt support NATO-backed nazis in Ukraine carrying out a coup against the elected government of Ukraine, you support NATO-backed Kurds when they participate in handing over Syria to ISIL, all on the grounds of "self-determination", but you think that Abkhazia, Ossetia, LNR, DNR, non-Mujahideen Afghanistan, etc. do not deserve self-determination.
A very weird comparison. Georgia and the US were the aggressors in both cases, and yet, you support them.
NATO: admits to spending billions on subjugating Ukraine, picks Ukrainian politicians before the completion of the coup, immediately starts working with the new government against Russia, admits to having pushed for war with Russia, and has its officials openly ask stuff like "how can we help you kill more Russians?".
You: this was totally not a coup.
Please stop pretending as if yet another in a myriad of coups/attempted coups by NATO is not such.
You mean when they overthrew (with NATO backing) the elected government, had their officials picked by NATO, banned political parties, and were surrendering their economy to NATO in a bunch of unpopular actions?
Also, if you claim that "democracy was working well", you are claiming that the people of Ukraine should be held accountable for putting nazis in power.
Because the people who have sold you on Iraq's WMDs, Afghanistan supposedly being invaded by the USSR, the protestors in Iran supposedly not being NED-backed, etc. told you so?
Also, I would still like to know what you think a state should do when the most prolific invader in the world - NATO - begins amassing weapons and personnel on that state's borders. You still have not given an answer.
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