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[โ€“] Ostrakon@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It being illegal doesn't stop people from doing it.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Take the company to court and get a fat payout ๐Ÿคท

[โ€“] ICastFist@programming.dev 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People gotta remember that Japan isn't USA or Europe when it comes to worker rights, or most rights, really, and that justice in each country can vary wildly

[โ€“] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA?? that's wild, how the fuck can you fuck up more than the US of A

[โ€“] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Way are you telling me that Japan has worse worker rights than USA

I did not say nor implied that. I said that people should not expect worker rights, or any rights, to be universal among countries, much less the whole judicial process and its consequences.

Whether Japanese worker rights are better or worse than USA/EU, I do not know.

[โ€“] Demdaru@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All I know are black companies where staff dies from exhaustion lol.

On the other hand company cannot fire you easily and they do have special rooms for workers they wanna let go, with menial and useless jobs assigned to basically force you into quitting.

Also quitting is so socially frowned upon that people hire other people to handle that for them.

[โ€“] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And then never get hired by any company again.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I should never fight for my rights. I might be perceived as somebody who fights for my rights.

[โ€“] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Or just take the hint and get another job. Not saying it's right, but you need to be realistic.

[โ€“] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, you prefer to be "realist." Others have the will to fight. Any attempt to get others to conform to your lack of fight for workers rights is class sabotage.

Don't be one of those wage slaves telling others not to fight for freedom because it's illegal and the beatings aren't that bad anyway.

I live in a country with much better worker's rights then Japan or the US. I've gone through disputes with employers. I can tell you that it's rarely worth the battle. And if you do "win" you wouldn't want to work at that place any longer. If it's about something that could pay out big, it's usually better for your mental health to have left that place a long time ago.

Being realistic is knowing when it's better to move on and find a better job. Sticking around just so you can "win" a legal battle will just make your life miserable.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Taking them to court is also realistic.

[โ€“] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

From what I understand about Japanese work culture, no, I don't think that would be a realistic option.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Courts are now work culture, are they?

[โ€“] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Put the justice boner away. If you make a name for yourself as the whistleblower, you will tank your career.

I don't agree with it. I don't think it's the way the world should work. But I recognise you can't go guns blazing and not expect to get shot down.

You have to pick your battles.

[โ€“] atro_city@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

It's not whistle-blowing, what in the world are you talking about? ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

I can't, this is too dumb for me. Should've know with a username like that.

[โ€“] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago

In countries with half decent worker protections this is not a problem.