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From Techmoan's video The man with the magic EQ at 19:37 (YouTube)

Techmoan just employed AI to find which of the many 78-RPM record EQ standards his equalizer uses in its "78" mode. He made recordings in RIAA and 78 modes, named them accordingly (shouldn't have to avoid bias), and uploaded them into a chatbot... Does he think the chatbot actually ran code on the server that

  • calculated the frequency spectrum (FFT) of each track,
  • divided 78/RIAA at each data point (or subtracted on log scale) to get relative values,
  • normalized to the well-known RIAA curve,
  • plotted the curve and identified roll-off frequencies and slopes?

I'm not saying this is impossible with AI, I'm sure a token-burning, recursively-prompting LLM (aka "agent") could write a Python script that runs on the local PC and actually does this. But no company would offer people to prompt agents on their servers for free like that. Pretty sure the bot just made up values to plot with Matplotlib or something. The first chart has a big red flag: the noise makes the curve go beyond the Y-axis maximum, suggesting the clean version existed first and the chart was "cropped" to that, then the noise was added. The second two charts imply that the bottom one is the derivative of the top, which it obviously isn't (if you know calculus). And RIAA EQ being +12 dB to +14 dB louder than the "78" preset across most of the audible spectrum? There's barely any volume difference when he toggles the switch in the video!

~~And there's no 500Hz bass roll-off the AI was so adamant about!~~ see edit below

Edit: here are annotated pictures:

Edit: the lack of 500Hz roll-off in these charts (if they are to be believed) means the "78" and "RIAA" characteristics are the same around 500 Hz, which is to be expected for Brunswick, since it uses the same 500Hz roll-off as RIAA. I just forgot that the AI didn't do the important Step 3 in my outlined procedure to get the "78" response curve. Still, the derivative is either smoothed beyond usability or plain wrong. Plus, Techmoan misrepresented the result (see second set of subtitles). If we take "Measured relative EQ curve" at face value like he did, Brunswick and RIAA are virtually identical in bass with their 500Hz roll-off (see the chart, it's near-flat below 1500 Hz). The difference is in the upper frequencies.

Also, is that actually ChatGPT's interface? Never used it but the "citation" sure looks like from Google's AI overview.

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[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How soon before AI is forced onto every creator on YT?

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It isn't and likely won't be. If YouTube literally forced AI on creators, many would likely flee, and YT would lose on training data. They are even cracking down on faceless channels because most of the new ones are slop, catching even well-known ones like Kurzgesagt in the process.

Still, I think Techmoan wouldn't have used AI if it weren't for its aggressive marketing and encouragement from "AI bros" so there was some pressure on him.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Leave YouTube and go where? PeerTube? Oddysee? I'm not sure which is a bigger joke even before you account for the fact that neither of them pay.

People have been wanting to leave YouTube for AGES. The copyright system is beyond fucked, videos get demonetized or hidden for no apparent reason with no route for recompense unless you have enough social sway to complain at them in public, the AI detection software is killing videos from human animators left and right and to top everything off there's a tab in the creator view with AI generated video ideas and thumbnails that you can't turn off.

People want to leave. The problem is that they can't. No one is on PeerTube as evidenced by the fact that the entire network hasn't buckled under the load. Oddyssee has a similar problem. It has slightly more users, but since it's a crypto project, most of them are right libertarians. The less said about Rumble, the better. Vimeo charges you to host your videos.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Reputable, established creators wishing to avoid AI? Probably Nebula.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago

And for those who don't have enough clout to make Team YouTube listen to them anyway?